X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-PolluStop: No license found, only first 5 messages were scanned Return-Path: Received: from [70.210.8.76] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WEBUSER 5.1c.1) with HTTP id 1211820 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 07:28:31 -0400 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: know your limitations To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.1c.1 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 07:28:31 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000501c69b32$aeec4e30$c7850f4b@Computerroom> References: <000501c69b32$aeec4e30$c7850f4b@Computerroom> X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1";format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "Paul Lipps" : Right On, Rob! My experience was not far geographically from yours; Santa Ynez. 'Was on my night dual cross country on a dark night, and one leg was to Santa Ynez. Turning from downwind to crosswind I could no longer see any lights. 'Though I'm not instrument-rated, I started looking at the IAS, ROC, and altitude 'til I completed the turn and could see the field lights. After stopping at Santa Maria, my instructor had me fly up to Avila, then do two full stalls and recovery while facing out to the dark ocean! 'Sure appreciated that gyro attitude instrument. I think my instructor was using those stalls with no outside reference as an example of what it's like on a dark night.