X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 21:00:37 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from gateway1.stoel.com ([198.36.178.141] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with ESMTP id 1133328 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 30 May 2006 14:23:56 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=198.36.178.141; envelope-from=CSLEWIS@stoel.com Received: from sea-mx1.stoel.com (unknown [172.17.103.4]) by gateway1.stoel.com (Firewall Mailer Daemon) with ESMTP id 056DCEB39C for ; Tue, 30 May 2006 11:22:18 -0700 (PDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C68416.174DACD2" Subject: RE: [LML] Legacy Balance/Space Question X-Original-Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 11:23:04 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [LML] Legacy Balance/Space Question Thread-Index: AcaCBNBU/sG3qTEnRlKVXrrN+L5qlwCDpJ3Q From: "Lewis III, Charles S." X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C68416.174DACD2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Steve Colwell: =20 In response to your question about placement of various items in a Legacy RG. In my airplane, with an IO-550, Hartzell 3-blade, all-electric, dual Chelton screen set-up, we put both batteries and the power grids behind the right seatback. We put the hydraulic pump and the ELT behind the left seatback. The only thing aft of the bulkhead is the Crossbow 500 AHRS. We put access panels in the seatbacks for ease of maintenance. The CG gets toward the front of the envelope with no fuel, no baggage, no passenger and a 170 lb. pilot. The CG gets near the rear of the envelope with a 200 lb. passenger, a 200 lb. pilot and 100 lbs. of baggage, although I don't fly in that configuration. This is true even after I switched from the small starter to a full-sized one. The engine starts fine. =20 I like the way the airplane worked out. When landing solo with no baggage and half fuel, there is not enough trim to completely stabilize the descent on short final, but plenty of elevator authority to flare. =20 Carl Lewis Legacy N14CL=20 =20 =20 _____ =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Steve/Claudette Colwell Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 8:13 PM To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: [LML] Legacy Balance/Space Question I am planning the locations of two 20 amp Panasonic batteries (14.6 lbs each) and the 3, Power Distribution Grids (14 volt dual battery/dual alternator/cross-tie). This is a Legacy RG with a Cont. 550, Hartzell 3 blade and Dual Screen Chelton. =20 My understanding is the Starter/Avionics PD Grid is usually located on the forward side of the firewall along with one of the Batteries... Any suggestions? =20 Another PD Grid could be located either on the aft side of the firewall or on the Avionics Shelf. I hear things get very crowded behind the panel. =20 Some of the Legacies in the factory workshop are putting one or two Battery/PD Grids behind the seat back and locating the Hyd. Pump just behind the right seat back. Pros & Cons? =20 =20 I have heard some 550 Legacies are having starting problems and aft CG concerns. Those of you who are flying could be very helpful to those of us who are still in decision mode. =20 Steve Colwell =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C68416.174DACD2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Steve=20 Colwell:

In=20 response to your question about placement of various items in a Legacy = RG. =20 In my airplane, with an IO-550, Hartzell 3-blade, all-electric, dual = Chelton=20 screen set-up, we put both batteries and the power grids behind the = right=20 seatback. We put the hydraulic pump and the ELT behind the left=20 seatback. The only thing aft of the bulkhead is the Crossbow 500=20 AHRS. We put access panels in the seatbacks for ease of = maintenance. =20 The CG gets toward the front of the envelope with no fuel, no baggage, = no=20 passenger and a 170 lb. pilot. The CG gets near the rear = of the=20 envelope with a 200 lb. passenger, a 200 lb. pilot and 100 = lbs. of=20 baggage, although I don't fly in that configuration. This is = true=20 even after I switched from the small starter to a full-sized one. = The=20 engine starts fine.

I like=20 the way the airplane worked out. When landing solo with = no=20 baggage and half fuel, there is not enough trim to completely = stabilize the=20 descent on short final, but plenty of elevator authority to=20 flare.

Carl=20 Lewis

Legacy=20 N14CL

From: Lancair Mailing List=20 [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Steve/Claudette=20 Colwell
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 8:13 PM
To: = Lancair=20 Mailing List
Subject: [LML] Legacy Balance/Space=20 Question

I am planning the = locations of two=20 20 amp Panasonic batteries (14.6 lbs each) and the 3, = Power=20 Distribution Grids (14 volt dual battery/dual alternator/cross-tie). =20 This is a Legacy RG with a Cont. 550, Hartzell 3 blade and Dual = Screen=20 Chelton.

My understanding is the=20 Starter/Avionics PD Grid is usually located on the forward side of the = firewall=20 along with one of the Batteries… Any=20 suggestions?

Another PD Grid could be = located=20 either on the aft side of the firewall or on the Avionics Shelf. I = hear=20 things get very crowded behind the panel.

Some of the Legacies in = the factory=20 workshop are putting one or two Battery/PD Grids behind the seat = back and=20 locating the Hyd. Pump just behind the right seat back. Pros & = Cons?

I have heard some 550 = Legacies are=20 having starting problems and aft CG concerns. Those of you who are = flying=20 could be very helpful to those of us who are still in decision=20 mode.

Steve Colwell =20

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