X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [67.8.183.219] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 5.0.9) with HTTP id 1122518 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 21 May 2006 17:59:09 -0400 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: IVP Crash To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.0.9 Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 17:59:09 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <004d01c67d11$da2658a0$640610ac@jacky0da39824a> References: <004d01c67d11$da2658a0$640610ac@jacky0da39824a> X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "Tom Gourley" : Rienk Ayers wrote: "I agree that the "desirability" of various handling characteristics is completely subjective. What I am asserting is that the rating or value of those characteristics are not - they are objective." I've been reading your posts and so far everything in them has been subjective, not objective. I have not seen any hard data. Mr. Ayers also wrote: "But if by "light touch" you mean that it is hard to dampen or stabilize the plane, because pilot inputs are difficult to control - I would label that as "touchy" or "twitchy" - both subjective terms." I don't mean that at all. Pilot inputs are not difficult to control with the proper technique, which is true of any airplane. By "light touch" I mean that if you use Cessna control inputs when flying a Legacy you will over control the airplane. If the pilot is ham-handed he/she will end up working much harder than necessary to hold altitude and heading. If you fly with a thumb and two fingers on the stick the airplane flies beautifully and will go precisely where you want it. Yes, Legacy control inputs are lighter, and better balanced, than a Cessna or Piper. That does not, in my opinion, make the airplane "twitchy". To me "twitchy" or unstable implies it is very difficult to maintain a stable attitude. This is not the case in the Legacy. If you want a more informed opinion, along with some objective data, go to http://cafefoundation.org/v1/aprs/legacy.pdf . If your definition of these terms is that the aircraft does not have the same sluggish handling of a 172, fine; go fly a Cessna and stop complaining. To me, flying is a lot more than transportation. I fly because I enjoy it. Flying a Cessna (or Piper, or Beech) is ok, but flying a Lancair is exhilarating. I like it that way and I don't want it to change. Tom Gourley