Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #36002
From: Marvin Kaye <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: IVP Crash
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 07:03:24 -0400
To: <lml>
Posted for "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>:

 Lowell,
 
 Very well put.  If it took me 100 of dual and 3 check rides to get a SEL
 license, I would hope I'd resorted to something less dangerous that I
 might be capable of...like getting out of bed in the morning.  After
 that, everything would be high risk activities.
 
 I suspect there are very few pilots-in-training that are washed-out by
 their instructors.  They just keep ringing up the hours (and bill) until
 they give it up either due to finances or frustration.  Flying is very
 simple, flying well is extremely complex. Some do it well, some just get
 by and some never get it.
 
 I was looking at buying a Lancair for the same reasons that everyone
 else is interested in them.  But the more I looked, the more I read, the
 more concerned I became.  The final straw was a local Lancair that
 'almost' made a good landing...came up 3' short and hit the abutment at
 the end of the runway.  He survived, barely, but his passenger didn't.
 
 Accidents do happen and its never scared me off from aviation, but when
 I spoke with some of other pilots at his field, there wasn't one of them
 surprised about the outcome.  Besides questioning his pilot skills and
 decision-making, they said on approach to this 2700' strip with water on
 both ends, that they could visually see the 'squirrelly' behavior of the
 plane on approach and final.  And, if you can see it from the ground,
 it's twice as bad in the plane.
 
 So, I decided to 'putts' along at 180 kts in a Velocity canard pusher
 with stability characteristics similar to a flat rock laying on the
 ground.  I don't get there quite as fast, but I arrive alive, which is
 more than can be said for a lot of Lancair drivers that get slow and low
 in the pattern.  Still, it's a great plane.  I just wish someone could
 figure out how to give up 10 kts and get it back in spades in stability.
 
 Chuck Jensen
 Diversified Technologies
 2680 Westcott Blvd
 Knoxville, TN  37931
 Phn:     865-539-9000 x25
 Cell:     865-406-9001
Fax:     865-539-9001
 cjensen@dts9000.com
 
 

"""
 From some of the posts it appears to me there is a suggestion that
 anyone
can
fly a Lancair with proper training, experience and discipline.   With
 that
in
mind, how many golf lessions do I need to consistently shoot par at
Augusta
National, or Pebbel Beach or maybe just my home course.

  I have no problem with the airplane.  What I do wonder about,
 however,
Does
anyone ever wash out in the training phase.   Or possibly more
 important,
does
anyone ever just admit that it is just too much airplane for his
 native
abilities?  Sort of like my abilities at golf , or art, or math or
 walking
on
walls.
"""
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