X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 18:18:01 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from apollo.email.starband.net ([148.78.247.132] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with ESMTP id 1113124 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 14 May 2006 15:24:39 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=148.78.247.132; envelope-from=hwasti@starband.net Received: from starband.net (vsat-148-64-23-255.c050.t7.mrt.starband.net [148.64.23.255]) by apollo.email.starband.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k4EJNgq1022905 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 15:23:51 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <446783B2.5000701@starband.net> X-Original-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 12:23:30 -0700 From: "Hamid A. Wasti" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Re: [LML] Re: IVP Crash References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.86.2, clamav-milter version 0.86 on apollo X-Virus-Status: Clean > Posted for "Tom Gourley" : > > > I was not throwing stones at anyone. If my comments were perceived > that way, > I apologize. Tom, My post was not intended to imply that you were throwing stones. I apologize that it it came across that way. The "you" in the post was directed at the generic "you" or in other words all of us. My point was that all of us are quick to criticize a pilot that fails to react correctly to an engine failure or other clear cut event for which we have all trained and trained and trained... or at least should have. I wanted to point out that there are other issues that frequently come up in real life that are not present in training, that can not be present in training. In training, the decision to land straight ahead has no adverse consequences because we know that we will not actually land and put ourselves at risk of injury. In training, the answer to the "has the engine failed" question never in doubt. Even if the instructor somehow managed to create a situation where the answer was in doubt, there is no "cost" to making the safe decision to landing straight ahead. How will we react when we are not sure about how bad things are with the engine and sure that an off airport landing will cause injuries. Think about that and know that in real life, you will be dealing with a messy ambiguous situation, not the sterile clear cut training scenario. Regards, Hamid