Return-Path: Received: from asbestos.eai.com ([12.10.41.146]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:53:21 -0400 Received: from goliath.eai.com ([10.1.1.80]) by asbestos.eai.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA25389 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:56:36 GMT Received: (from uucp@localhost) by goliath.eai.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA1845266 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 17:57:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from (unknown [10.1.220.1]) by goliath via smap (V2.1) id xma842123; Mon, 13 Sep 99 17:56:26 -0500 Really-From: olsen@eai.com Message-ID: <37DD8132.A93F55D@eai.com> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 16:56:50 -0600 From: Dan Olsen Organization: Engineering Animation, Inc. To: Lancair List Subject: LNC2 hydraulic hoses X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Greetings, I am beginning fabrication of the hydraulic lines for the retracts in my 360. One line that concerns me is the hose that connects from the bulkhead fitting on the closeout rib to the low pressure (down) side of the main gear retract cylinders. This hose length is in the range of 4.5". When you subtract off at least 1" for each connector you are left with only about 2" of flexible hose. Granted, the amount of flexing encountered by this hose is quite small, but the Lancair hose is quite stiff and it just seems like an awfully short run that could be prone to premature failure. Any thoughts on alternatives? Thanks! Dan [I chose to follow Orin's lead and eliminate those bulkhead fittings by running the hoses into the cabin through a small oval hole cut into the bottom of the closeout rib in front of the phenolic plate that supports the inboard end of the cylinder. I'm using the hydraulic gear door option and the only bulkhead fitting I used was for the lo-pres side of the sequence valve. The hi-pres side of the sequence valve is fed from a tee in the outboard end of the cylinder (also 'borrowed' from Orin). I've also seen a few installations which used a large looped hose for the lo-pres side that allowed plenty of working length (trying to shoe-horn in a 6" OA hose assembly is a PITA), and the hose was affixed to the inside of the upper stub wing skin, above the wheel. BTW, I think the magic number for hose fitting allowance is actually 1.25", not 1", so you may wind up with less hose than you think. There's a couple alternatives for you... I'm sure there are more out there. One more thing... you might want to 'rough-in' all of your tubing runs with stiff wire (like 1/8" AL) to locate all your bends before putting bender to tube. I did mine that way and it really simplified things. I have a picture of the dry run, I'll upload it to the LML site's hydraulics area for you. ] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html