Return-Path: Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.2]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 01:42:55 -0400 Received: from Fredmoreno@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id kVKDa05147 (3963) for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 01:46:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Fredmoreno@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 01:46:40 EDT Subject: IV Hydraulic lines + a safety feature To: lancair.list@olsusa.com X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> I did it the way Brent described (after I saw his installation) and it can be done. I made two changes from the factory plans. First, I made the tunnel under the spar wider than called for in the book. I would make it wider yet which may not be possible in the IV-P because of the pressurization loads on the floor. Second, I ran the brake lines (rigid aluminum -- forget the nyla-flo) and the hydraulic lines for my home brew speed brakes through the tunnel as well. This made things a bit cramped (hence the desire for a bigger tunnel) but with patience, a couple of beers for enhanced attitude adjustment, and tube bending followed by restraightening, I got a total of 13 lines through a tunnel 6.5 inches wide. The tunnel is plenty big enough for the lines. The extra space is needed to wiggle the last few lines through. Twenty-four inches wide by four inches high would have been real nice, but perhaps a bit excessive given the allowable space. Suggested safety feature: When one of our unnamed colleagues did a belly slide in his IVP, the asphalt ground through the floor beneath the spar. At the end of the slide, dust was rising from the cockpit floor, and some the lines were grazed enough to ooze some hydraulic fluid. Now imagine fuel lines sliding along the asphalt... After letting my imagination consider the consequences, I cut a piece of 1/4 inch thick high density polyethylene sheet (same stuff I used on the landing gear door cams which need 1/4 inch stuff, not the 1/8 stuff from the factory) into the shape of a T. The cross bar of the T is almost as wide as the core-free area on the floor in front of the spar. The column of the T runs down the tunnel full width under the tubing. (You can put this in easily after installing the lines.) Now if I do a belly slide (who, me??), the asphalt can chew its way through the floor under the spar, and as it continues to nibble away at carbon, it will meet the polyethylene sheet which will move up (lifting the tubes) as the airplane grinds itself and your checkbook down to a nub. (Figure about $1000/second.) Not pretty to contemplate. But better than contemplating a belly slide on a concrete runway with lots of anti-hydroplaning saw cuts which has been specially tailored to abrasively remove epoxy-carbon and aluminum until striking oil..... While we're at it: how to best prevent the hydraulic lines on the floor from abrading one another? I have wrapped spiral nylon around the lines, but they can still wiggle. A friend suggested potting them in place with mix-and-pour foam (or maybe the foam that comes in pressurized cans). Push them down, add a transverse swath of foam a couple of inches wide, let harden, sand off excess foam. The foam is soft enough that lines could be easily dug out if necessary in the future, and potential vibration/abrasion of lines could be reduced or eliminated. Any comments or thoughts about this potential problem and solution? Fred >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML homepage: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html