X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 20:21:47 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.137] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0c3) with ESMTP id 754557 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 19:37:49 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.139.137; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.5.) id q.140.4def53c5 (3866) for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 19:37:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <140.4def53c5.307b039f@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 19:37:03 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] LNC2 - The Lightbulb Came On! X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1128901023" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5009 X-Spam-Flag: NO -------------------------------1128901023 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/9/2005 5:43:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, WarbirdAeroPress@cox.net writes: Just how much flap reflex are we supposed to have in our planes? I'm an owner, and didn't build it, so I have no way of finding out other than asking the experts out here. When my flaps are reflexed fully, I have about one inch between the fairing on the fuselage to the flap; in other words, the flaps rises above the fairing by that much on the inboard side. Oh... And Greyhawk... I saw your speed for the EAA race - nice! We'd have fun racing together... My best Reno lap speed was 237 mph on a measly, stock O-360... Not even an IO! Scotty, First, let me point out that the EAA Race posted data about my engine is Kraaaap! I fly behind a slightly adjusted IO 320. Period. Second, If your fuselage is a actual 320/360 device, the faired in position is -7 degrees of reflex. Much more or less will slow you down per reported experimentation by the cross country guys (Hi Speed Larry, Speed Demon, Doughboy and Grayhawk). Note: Scotty, I will add you to our interchange list where it is up to you to separate the taunts and lies from truths and bigger lies. You have got to try a long distance run (rather than constantly in a turn) to allow yourself time to consider the benefit/drag of certain "mods." So..... 1. You are losing speed because of drag induced by the poor flap/body interface. 2. You have caused the plane to pitch excessively up because of the higher than designed flap position. 3. There is increased drag because instead of unloading the tail it is actively fighting nose up pitch at max power. 4. Egads man! There is hidden power in an injected engine. I/O engines have a better chance at balancing the HP delivered by each cylinder. Perhaps we could meet at some secret undisclosed location about halfway between us to discuss, um... things. Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96 Aurora, IL (KARR) PS, I thought you did quite well at Reno - especially considering you ran at about 4000 MSL. -------------------------------1128901023 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In a message dated 10/9/2005 5:43:51 P.M. Central Standard Time,=20 WarbirdAeroPress@cox.net writes:

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Just how much flap reflex are we supposed to have in o= ur=20 planes? I'm an owner, and didn't build it, so I have no way of finding out= =20 other than asking the experts out here. When my flaps are reflexed fully,=20= I=20 have about one inch between the fairing on the fuselage to the flap; in ot= her=20 words, the flaps rises above the fairing by that much on the inboard=20 side.

Oh... And Greyhawk... I saw your speed for the EAA rac= e -=20 nice! We'd have fun racing together... My best Reno lap speed was 237=20 mph on a measly, stock O-360... Not even an=20 IO!

Scotty,

First, let me point out that the EAA Race posted data about my engine i= s=20 Kraaaap! I fly behind a slightly adjusted IO 320. Period.

Second, If your fuselage is a actual 320/360 device, the faired in posi= tion=20 is -7 degrees of reflex. Much more or less will slow you down per= =20 reported experimentation by the cross country guys (Hi Speed Larry, Speed De= mon,=20 Doughboy and Grayhawk). Note: Scotty, I will add you to our=20 interchange list where it is up to you to separate the taunts=20 and lies from truths and bigger lies. You have got to try a=20= long=20 distance run (rather than constantly in a turn) to allow yourself time to=20 consider the benefit/drag of certain "mods."

So.....

1. You are losing speed because of drag induced by the poor flap/body=20 interface.

2. You have caused the plane to pitch excessively up because of the hig= her=20 than designed flap position.

3. There is increased drag because instead of unloading the tail it is=20 actively fighting nose up pitch at max power.

4. Egads man! There is hidden power in an injected engine. = I/O=20 engines have a better chance at balancing the HP delivered by each=20 cylinder.

Perhaps we could meet at some secret undisclosed location about halfway= =20 between us to discuss, um... things.

Scott Krueger=20 AKA Grayhawk
Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96
Aurora, IL=20 (KARR)

PS, I thought=20 you did quite well at Reno - especially considering you ran at about 4000=20 MSL.

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