X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 15:44:56 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao08.cox.net ([68.230.241.31] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0c2) with ESMTP id 725131 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 17 Sep 2005 14:38:51 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.31; envelope-from=rickschrameck@cox.net Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [68.108.32.101]) by fed1rmmtao08.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20050917183800.QCBB25410.fed1rmmtao08.cox.net@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2005 14:38:00 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <432C6287.2050407@cox.net> X-Original-Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 11:37:59 -0700 From: Rick Schrameck User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Re: [LML] Re: FAA trying to stop us. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John, You are not confused you got it right. Neither Joe nor Richard can expand or clarify only the FAA and EAA can do it. The FAA is right now going against the AC's provided by them and the EAA regarding the way our aircraft are issued certificatees. Rick Marvin Kaye wrote: > Posted for "John W. Cox" : > > Rick, I am wishing you the best on your efforts. I am impressed with > Carl's latest project. I however, continue to become more confused with > the various twists and turns of this melodrama. > > The consequences could indeed signal a clear course change in Amateur > Built FAA Approved Kits. If you have not yet applied to be added to > that manufacturer list, please do and keep us informed. If readers do > not understand the TASK List, then this is most assuredly the time to do > so. I for one think both Joe Bartels and Richard VanGrunsven should > press to expand and clarify the obsolete task list. The Tasks list is > obsolete, incomplete and not appropriate to the mission. Several > posters are right that clearly required system tasks are not subject to > the rule - like avionics, paint and engine build. Maybe it needs to be > renamed the 33% rule. > > Every purchaser of a kit should have a clear vision of the path to > Experimental Certification - Amateur Built. The options of Factory > Assist (Lancair - Redmond), Quick Build Alternate kit (P.I. Bonanza > Metalcrafters), Professional Assistance (seeking occasional and > documented support like Aerocrafters), education, or just writing a big > check to a Professional Builder (hired gunslinger) to do it are all > separate events and various routes to the objective. I see tremendous > value in seeking alternate solutions to the objective. Safety will > certainly be increased. The final product quality and the proficiency of > the "Builder" should be the objective. > > The complexity, performance and consistency of said product has sure > improved in the last few years. I am glad it has. I am hopeful the EAA > is not in bed with the Seattle MIDO but will serve as an advocate for > the little guy. I want to continue to engage those with more knowledge > and skill than I possess as I build an improved version of what used to > be called Spam Cans. I think the industry deserves on overhaul of this > archaic and non appropriate list of tasks. > > John Cox > > > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/lml/ >