X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [69.171.52.140] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 5.0c2) with HTTP id 725071 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 17 Sep 2005 13:23:42 -0400 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: FAA trying to stop us. To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.0c2 Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 13:23:42 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9F819487C44F0B4DBDB0CC0450824CEB019B54A3@ehost005-2.exch005intermedia.net> References: <9F819487C44F0B4DBDB0CC0450824CEB019B54A3@ehost005-2.exch005intermedia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "John W. Cox" : Rick, I am wishing you the best on your efforts. I am impressed with Carl's latest project. I however, continue to become more confused with the various twists and turns of this melodrama. The consequences could indeed signal a clear course change in Amateur Built FAA Approved Kits. If you have not yet applied to be added to that manufacturer list, please do and keep us informed. If readers do not understand the TASK List, then this is most assuredly the time to do so. I for one think both Joe Bartels and Richard VanGrunsven should press to expand and clarify the obsolete task list. The Tasks list is obsolete, incomplete and not appropriate to the mission. Several posters are right that clearly required system tasks are not subject to the rule - like avionics, paint and engine build. Maybe it needs to be renamed the 33% rule. Every purchaser of a kit should have a clear vision of the path to Experimental Certification - Amateur Built. The options of Factory Assist (Lancair - Redmond), Quick Build Alternate kit (P.I. Bonanza Metalcrafters), Professional Assistance (seeking occasional and documented support like Aerocrafters), education, or just writing a big check to a Professional Builder (hired gunslinger) to do it are all separate events and various routes to the objective. I see tremendous value in seeking alternate solutions to the objective. Safety will certainly be increased. The final product quality and the proficiency of the "Builder" should be the objective. The complexity, performance and consistency of said product has sure improved in the last few years. I am glad it has. I am hopeful the EAA is not in bed with the Seattle MIDO but will serve as an advocate for the little guy. I want to continue to engage those with more knowledge and skill than I possess as I build an improved version of what used to be called Spam Cans. I think the industry deserves on overhaul of this archaic and non appropriate list of tasks. John Cox