X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [66.94.81.250] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 5.0c1) with HTTP id 670287 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 23:41:44 -0400 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Torqued to death To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.0c1 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 23:41:44 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001101c5a1e0$d3f915b0$6401a8c0@axs> References: <001101c5a1e0$d3f915b0$6401a8c0@axs> X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "terrence o'neill" : Hamid, Permit me to agree. Thunderstorms can contain hail the size of baseballs, and 300 mph updrafts. I have seen a Lockheed P2V with its wing's leading edged hammered competely flat, vertically, as though by a huge ball-peen hammer, and it survived only because it was flying slower than it's condition A, where the wing stalls rather than overstresses... and has large fowler flaps to make up for the lift lost at the leading edge. Consider the 98 SF wing of a IV-P, hitting such a condition at possibly 350-mph... with a wing that is rated at 3.8Gs Normal Gross ... where a gust could produce more than 7 Gs. Then we might add to that the new data on positive lightning, which is --- ten times? -- as powerful as negative for which we design. The anvil-heads deserve a lot of respect. Terrence.