X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [66.94.81.250] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 5.0c1) with HTTP id 667030 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:43:34 -0400 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] IVPT Crash, weather To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.0c1 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:43:34 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <00c001c59ed9$89e3d9b0$6401a8c0@barney> References: <00c001c59ed9$89e3d9b0$6401a8c0@barney> X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "Barney Briton" : Mike You are correct. I am in Calgary. On Tuesday the weather here was not that nice. When I first saw this report I though it must have been another thunderstorm transistion issue. In other words you can't fly through a severe thunder storm. In Canada the ATC does not have very good weather capability and are reluctant to give advice or even advise you of thunderstorm activity some times. They would however be able to see severe storms that close to Calgary. Sundre where they crashed is very close to the Rocky Mountains and tends to be a hot spot for bad weather. Unfortunately it is also on track to Grande Prairie, his destination. I have had a very scarey flight on that track a few years ago in a Dash 8 that I picked up over two inches of ice and was in atleast moderate turbuleance, as it was at the control limits a few times but did not go out of control. I believe that it will be determined the same as the one two years ago just north of Florida that had the inflight break up due to a Cat 5 storm transition. I was remarking to myself from the ground that day as to how "defined" the storms were and how that they must be very active and strong for that much definition. The storm I was looking at would have been over Sundre. Barney Britton IVPT Calgary """ I heard from a pilot that was in the area at the time of the accident and he said there were some severe thunderstorms in the area, tops up around 40K feet. He also heard some radio calls to N750F. Mike """