X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:31:24 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from rly-ip05.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.9] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.6) with ESMTP id 1032735 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 05:40:55 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.138.9; envelope-from=WarbirdAeroPress@cox.net Received: from smtp-rtc04.proxy.aol.com (smtp-rtc04.proxy.aol.com [152.163.102.82]) by rly-ip05.mx.aol.com (v98.19) with ESMTP id RELAYIN3-442cba6f6347; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 05:40:06 -0500 Received: from DELL (ACC42BBB.ipt.aol.com [172.196.43.187]) by smtp-rtc04.proxy.aol.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j669dnQ7003969 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:39:55 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <001101c5820e$a642dd00$3808000a@DELL> From: "Scotty G" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Lancair 360 small tail elevator trim X-Original-Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 02:39:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C581D3.F9036900" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.43 X-Apparently-From: ERR_USER_NULL X-AOL-IP: 152.163.102.82 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C581D3.F9036900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim, Dang, sounds soooo familiar to me. Maybe I can shed a little bit of = light. I bought a LNC2 360 that used to have a manual trim system like the one = you used. This owner switched to a electric trim system with a elevator = mounted tab about a year or so into the airplane's life. Fast forward = about ten years to when I bought the airplane (Aug of last year)... I = could NOT trim out the aft stick pressure during approach or slow flight = with flaps. It seemed very wrong to me... I did NOT like that... I built and installed a MUCH larger elevator trim tab based on the size = of the ones I saw on Mk II Lancairs... It'a actually not as big as = those. Mine also has the small tail. So, my tab grew from the one it had = when I bought it (I'd say about 6 inches long and 1 inch in chord) to = one that is about a foot long and 1 1/4 inch in chord. BAM! I could trim = the aft stick pressure away with flaps on approach.=20 Now, I just need to make a simple control arm adjustment that allows me = just a skosh more nose down trim at faster speeds. I think the tab is = close to be sized right, just need to tweak the arm from the servo motor = to the tab. I can easily trim away control forces during approach, but at cruise = speed and faster, it's mere ounces of control pressure to keep level. I = just need to make the adjustment for a bit more nose down trim force. If = you want, give me about 4 days and I can forward some photos. Fly safe, Scotty G www.UnleashedAirRacing.com www.WarbirdAeroPress.com All mail is scanned for viruses. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C581D3.F9036900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jim,
 
Dang, sounds soooo familiar to me. Maybe I can shed = a little=20 bit of light.
 
I bought a LNC2 360 that used to have a manual trim = system=20 like the one you used. This owner switched to a electric trim system = with a=20 elevator mounted tab about a year or so into the airplane's life. Fast = forward=20 about ten years to when I bought the airplane (Aug of last year)... I = could NOT=20 trim out the aft stick pressure during approach or slow flight with = flaps. It=20 seemed very wrong to me... I did NOT like that...
 
I built and installed a MUCH larger elevator trim = tab based on=20 the size of the ones I saw on Mk II Lancairs... It'a actually not as big = as=20 those. Mine also has the small tail. So, my tab grew from the one it had = when I=20 bought it (I'd say about 6 inches long and 1 inch in chord) to one that = is about=20 a foot long and 1 1/4 inch in chord. BAM! I could trim the aft stick = pressure=20 away with flaps on approach.
 
Now, I just need to make a simple control arm = adjustment that=20 allows me just a skosh more nose down trim at faster speeds. I think the = tab is=20 close to be sized right, just need to tweak the arm from the servo motor = to the=20 tab.
 
I can easily trim away control forces during = approach, but at=20 cruise speed and faster, it's mere ounces of control pressure to keep = level. I=20 just need to make the adjustment for a bit more nose down trim force. If = you=20 want, give me about 4 days and I can forward some = photos.
 
Fly safe,

Scotty G
www.UnleashedAirRacing.com=
www.WarbirdAeroPress.com
 
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