X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [65.33.163.227] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.3c5) with HTTP id 940288 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:59:05 -0400 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] Flight Training, Solution? To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.3c5 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 15:59:05 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9F819487C44F0B4DBDB0CC0450824CEBCC507B@ehost005-2.exch005intermedia.net> References: <9F819487C44F0B4DBDB0CC0450824CEBCC507B@ehost005-2.exch005intermedia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "John W. Cox" : Mike, how does a skilled pilot fail to set up for Best Glide, pass Landing at the nearest airport upon imminent mechanical issues and oh yes, set the prop for least drag during the process? To me skill is the application of the correct flight set applied to the correct evaluation of a needed action in a timely manner. Skill can only be demonstrated through successful, repeated execution with properly scheduled and frequent training. There are individuals who are self taught yet they do achieve the educational value desired. They just don't get a second set of experienced eyes critiquing the proficiency. I agree training might not be a solution to poor judgment but repetitive training with an experienced instructor can identify the deficiency and then the instructor/student team can continue working on it until it is no longer a factor. Evaluation, Introspection, Discussion and repeated training with correction to deficiencies is a good start. I for one attended the High Performance School last September at Redmond and think that participation is a good start. As a former DPE, I have seen a lot of "Joe bag of dozen doughnuts", fresh from FAA certification CFI's train a second generation CFI, who trains a third generation CFI, who then sends me an applicant who replicates quite well the dialog learned all the way back to Number #1. Sometimes within 24 months. Ask them a question of "What that means" or "What might happen If" and you get a blank stare all too often. You all know the next phrase...."My Instructor never taught me that"... Right. Then I retort, "Do you have a copy of the latest PTS for this rating?". Shannon built an exceptional aircraft. He was meticulous and prideful as an owner... and for good reason. I still have questions regarding the role of the supercharger in the series of events. I wonder if a flying buddy could have spotted the issues and made a material change to the outcome. I always offer to go with friends, yet too many do not want any evaluation, introspection or any constructive discussion. And you know, as long as that's our attitude we will all continue to loose close friends. Unfortunately, those who follow will pay the insurance rates necessary to correct those mistakes. I offer continuation of High Performance Initial and Recurrent Training as one option. I am receptive to others. I will not be complacent that Shannon's loss needs to be in vein. His presence to this group is sorely missed. John Cox