Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 07:35:46 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from ironport.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.200.43] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP id 618930 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:16:00 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.69.200.43; envelope-from=skipslater@earthlink.net Received: from smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net (209.86.89.61) by ironport.atl.sa.earthlink.net with ESMTP; 24 Jan 2005 00:15:30 -0500 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Received: from [4.61.193.2] (helo=skipslater) by smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CswZV-0006kL-Se for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:15:30 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=simple; s=test1; d=earthlink.net; h=Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=NDKbkxrZL8XRpo3qeue5+3VWfCVHYWjRR2nZ+/t+d8ZRHNjM6Nq5lmiVjxm3tbhj; X-Original-Message-ID: <000e01c501d3$ae510640$6401a8c0@mshome.net> Reply-To: "Skip Slater" From: "Skip Slater" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] (DAR) Inspection X-Original-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:15:09 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C50190.9E4EA600" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-ELNK-Trace: cbee950bdf563876c8ad50643b1069f8239a348a220c26095b1768c15ae6f425522f28c4f3b780ec548b785378294e88350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 4.61.193.2 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C50190.9E4EA600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Who was your DAR? Was his whole inspection only 4 hours?" I wish my DAR had been that thorough when I had my ES inspected. The = guy I had was a total joke. He showed up, asked to see my paperwork, = did about a five minute walkaround during which he stuck his head in the = door for a quick peek at my panel, then went to a desk where he filled = out his forms, gave me my airworthiness certificate and operating = limitations, collected a $400 check for his services and left. When I = offered to show him my builder's log and photo album, both of which = which I'd taken great pains to put together, he wasn't interested. I = got the feeling I was keeping him from a tee time or something. I don't = think he was there for more than half an hour total. One of the guys in the builder assist shop where I was at the time = knew the DAR and he'd told him that he could tell within a few minutes = if a plane was airworthy or not. Since my plane was built at a shop he = knew about and who's work he was familiar with, I guess he didn't feel = it necessary to do a thorough inspection. I was very tempted to lodge a = complaint with the local FSDO, which in retrospect, I probably should = have done. Thankfully, when Orin came to do my first flight about a week later, = he spent several hours over two different days going over EVERYTHING = from nose to tail with me, pointing out several things that needed = tweaking in the process. Only when he was done did I feel fully = confident that the plane was ready to fly. In contrast to my inspector, I've heard of some DARs that go way = overboard, going so far as to check control travel down to a tenth of a = degree and nitpicking over some incredibly obtuse items. Jeff's sounds = like a pretty good one to me, somewhere in the middle - thorough without = being obsessive. Wish I'd had him myself! Skip Slater ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C50190.9E4EA600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
"Who was your DAR? Was his whole inspection only 4 hours?"
 
   I wish my DAR had been = that thorough=20 when I had my ES inspected.  The guy I had was a total joke.  = He=20 showed up, asked to see my paperwork, did about a five minute = walkaround=20 during which he stuck his head in the door for a quick peek at my panel, = then=20 went to a desk where he filled out his forms, gave me my airworthiness=20 certificate and operating limitations, collected a $400 check for = his=20 services and left.  When I offered to show him my builder's log and = photo=20 album, both of which which I'd taken great pains to put together,  = he=20 wasn't interested.  I got the feeling I was keeping him from a tee = time or=20 something.  I don't think he was there for more than half an hour=20 total.
   One of the guys in the = builder assist=20 shop where I was at the time knew the DAR and he'd told him = that he=20 could tell within a few minutes if a plane was airworthy or not.  = Since my=20 plane was built at a shop he knew about and who's work he was familiar = with, I=20 guess he didn't feel it necessary to do a thorough inspection.  I = was very=20 tempted to lodge a complaint with the local FSDO, which in = retrospect, I=20 probably should have done.
   Thankfully, when Orin came = to do my=20 first flight about a week later, he spent several hours over two = different days=20 going over EVERYTHING from nose to tail with me, pointing out several = things=20 that needed tweaking in the process.  Only when he was done did I = feel=20 fully confident that the plane was ready to fly.
   In contrast to my = inspector, I've=20 heard of some DARs that go way overboard, going so far as to check = control=20 travel down to a tenth of a degree and nitpicking over some incredibly = obtuse=20 items.  Jeff's sounds like a pretty good one to me, somewhere in = the middle=20 - thorough without being obsessive.  Wish I'd had him = myself!
   Skip Slater
 
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