Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #27776
From: Robert Overmars <robert.overmars@tiscali.it>
Sender: Marvin Kaye <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Alert. NACA 64212
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 07:57:29 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Saluti tutti,
 
This is the polar of NACA 64-212, which is the wingtip profile used for Lancair IV's and ES's.  It has an unusual characteristic in that when reaching or exceeding 22 degrees AoA,  then with reducing AoA the coefficient of lift decreases. This can be seen on the graph as the the leftwards and downwards moving line from  22' AoA.
 
With reducing AoA from 22 degrees, this line shows the reducing coefficient of lift, until, as near as I can read it, at 17 degrees AoA the coefficient of lift has reduced to 0.75. Then with a reduction of AoA of only half a degree the coefficient of lift jumps (the dotted line) to 1.45  An increase in lift of around 93% (almost double) over just half a degree of REDUCING AoA.
 
 
 
 
 
Inferring from this data, for an LIV or ES even with only a small difference of wingtip's incidence, (for the purpose of this  illustration lets call it 0.5 degrees) when reaching or exceeding 22degrees AoA, when pushing forward stick to unstall, the first wingtip to reduce to 16.5 degrees AoA suddenly has nearly double the lift of the opposite wingtip.
 
The aeroplane rolls, uncommanded. The downgoing wing 'sees' a higher AoA and stays stalled with a coefficient of lift of 0.75 or so, while the upgoing wing 'sees' a reduced AoA and probably reaches the peak coefficient of lift of 1.5. The upgoing wing with lessor AoA has a reduced coeffient of drag while the downgoing wing with the higher AoA has an increased coefficient of drag producing yaw. The aeroplane is stalled, and rolling and yawing into spin.
 
 
 
So much for reading the data and inferring  what the aeroplane may or may not do, is the effect real?
 
Dave Allen wrote, 15th May 2004, LML #23831: "I was not up there exploring spins. That's the whole point. I was doing a stall series and near the end of it taking the deep stall to the point of wing drop. When I brought the stick forward and applied full opposite rudder, the Lancair not only did not recover, but fell into a fully developed 3 turn spin.  etc "
 
From "An Upper Surface Wing Re-Profile for the BD5" by Harry Riblett.  "The BD5 airplanes as originally designed have a well documented , undesirable sharp stall characteristic that has caused numerous accidents, many of them fatal. The main cause of the problem is the use of the infamous NACA 64-212 airfoil section at the wing root. This airfoil is low-cambered and only 12% thick, which largely accounts for it's low maximum lift coefficient and also the sharp loss of lift at the stall, followed by a hysteresis loop during stall recovery. etc "
 
 
This is the remains of LIVpt, VH-CIV lost from a test flight stall series. From the accident report..."flown by 6,500 hours ex-military pilot in command experienced over many years in aircraft with a wide range of performances. The aircraft was slowed and stalled at an altitude of 5,200', the pilot recovered but entered another stall during the recovery at 4,950' The pilot recovered from that stall and repositioned and entered and entered a third stall at 6,200'. The aircraft rolled at the initiation of the stall and continued to roll as it then descended rapidly. etc"  According to an article in the local newspaper after the event, quoting eyewitnesses " the aeroplane appeared to make an aerobatic manoeuvre. etc"
 
 
 
 
I'm aware of four other LIVs lost in stall/spin/splat accidents. Is there a common cause?
 
 
ciao,
 
Roberto d'Italia.
 
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