Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:03:17 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from relay-6m.club-internet.fr ([194.158.104.45] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP id 611243 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:56:40 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=194.158.104.45; envelope-from=alainoireaux@club-internet.fr Received: from AlainNOIREAUX (lxxx-7-63.n.club-internet.fr [213.44.14.63]) by relay-6m.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id B948525608 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:56:07 +0100 (CET) X-Original-Message-ID: <003001c4fd33$2c67b510$7fc6fea9@AlainNOIREAUX> Reply-To: "Alain NOIREAUX" From: "Alain NOIREAUX" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Approach control X-Original-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:55:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 To US citizens, switching to METAR was only for the FAA adopting an ICAO standard,used all over the world by pilots,but by FAA. Now everybody has the met. datas in the same order ,all over the world. I know US controlers have great difficulty to adopt standard ICAO when speaking in their microphone,they use their aeronautical slang, and then they complain that foreign pilots don't understand them. When approching LAX,one night,the controler ordered me :"Speed south...!!!"I wondered what he was requesting and I asked him to "Say again" and he repeated twice the same thing !!! Eventually , an American pilot translated for me : "Speed 180 Kts" For my stupid logical French brain I was unable to understand. For me speed is ...a speed and south is a heading,and those two words are completelly differents. If we want to speak the same language when flying ,we have to use the same procedures or we are heading to disasters , at any speed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marvin Kaye" To: "Lancair Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 6:46 AM Subject: [LML] Re: Approach control > Posted for "John F. Herminghaus" : > > If you've stopped learning you should stop flying. > > > > I was forced to switch to METAR etc but I'll be %$#&& if I switch > > to Knots! I learned in MPH, my IAS is in MPH and I think in MPH. > > If it is too difficult to convert, just skip my posts. There, > > that is my story and I'm stickin to it. > > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/lml/ >