Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:35:42 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from systems3.net ([68.14.236.16] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 603731 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:43:53 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.14.236.16; envelope-from=cberland@systems3.net Received: from systems0d3b724 ([192.168.1.81]) by systems3.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-12) with SMTP id j0BJhL5I006242 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:43:21 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <008801c4f815$22acad00$5101a8c0@systems0d3b724> From: "Craig Berland" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mail List" Subject: [LML] IVP weights X-Original-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:38:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0085_01C4F7DA.7338CCD0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.75-1, clamav-milter version 0.75c on linux X-Virus-Status: Clean This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0085_01C4F7DA.7338CCD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As a IV-P builder, I find the discussion on IV-P weight very = interesting. Let me offer the following to re-focus those of you = fortunate enough to fly Lansairs all the time. This summer I flew a = IV-P...full fuel, the two people in the front seats were 220 lbs each, = the person in the back seat was 6'3" and 185 lbs. Late July in Redmond = was 95 deg F. We climbed to 17,500 at 165 kt cruise at 1000 to 2000 fpm = (not continuous). It seemed to me the climb improved above 10,000 = ft.??? The flight characteristics were fabulous and the guy in the back = seat thought there was lots of room. You could not wipe the smile off = his face and he was new to flying in a small plane. On the other hand, I just finished my IFR cross country in a Piper = Cherokee. After shooting the ILS approach into Tucson, we got clearance = to Nogales. Then came 20 minutes of being "vectored for climb" by the = Tucson tower to get us to 10,000 ft, and off to Nogales. The last 2000 = ft of climb was at 57 kts, and God help me if I'm lying, maybe at 150 = fpm. 70 kts produced a zero climb rate. Now please note, I'm talking 70 = kts not 170 kts. I can't help but smile when I see someone complaining = about the performance of a IV-P on "hot summer days". Also, a TSIO 520 = A36 Bonanza has 1372 lbs of useful load and 194 kt cruise. The IV-P has = 1350 lbs of useful load and 294 kt cruise. 22 lbs for 100 kts....sounds = good to me. I think I'll keep gross at 3550 lbs until I know the = airplane (maybe that will be forever) and as one of my earlier posts = indicates I am trying to build as much forward CG as possible. I intend to always fly safe....just can't wait to fly fast. Craig Berland 7VG ------=_NextPart_000_0085_01C4F7DA.7338CCD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

As a IV-P builder, I find the = discussion on IV-P=20 weight very interesting. Let me offer the following to re-focus = those of=20 you fortunate enough to fly Lansairs all the time. This summer I = flew a=20 IV-P...full fuel, the two people in the front seats were 220 lbs each, = the=20 person in the back seat was 6'3" and 185 lbs. Late July in Redmond = was 95=20 deg F. We climbed to 17,500 at 165 kt cruise at 1000 to 2000 fpm = (not=20 continuous). It seemed to me the climb improved above 10,000 = ft.???=20 The flight characteristics were fabulous and the guy in the back = seat=20 thought there was lots of room. You could not wipe the smile off his = face and he=20 was new to flying in a small plane.

On the other hand, I just finished my = IFR cross=20 country in a Piper Cherokee. After shooting the ILS approach into = Tucson, we got=20 clearance to Nogales. Then came 20 minutes of being "vectored = for=20 climb" by the Tucson tower to get us to 10,000 ft, and off to=20 Nogales. The last 2000 ft of climb was at 57 kts, and God help me = if I'm=20 lying, maybe at 150 fpm. 70 kts produced a zero climb rate. = Now=20 please note, I'm talking 70 kts not 170 kts. I can't help but smile when = I see=20 someone complaining about the performance of a IV-P on "hot summer = days". =20 Also, a TSIO 520 A36 Bonanza has 1372 lbs of useful load and 194 kt=20 cruise. The IV-P has 1350 lbs of useful load and 294 kt = cruise.=20 22 lbs for 100 kts....sounds good to me. I think I'll keep gross = at 3550=20 lbs until I know the airplane (maybe that will be forever) and as one of = my=20 earlier posts indicates I am trying to build as much forward CG as=20 possible.

I intend to always fly safe....just = can't wait to=20 fly fast.

Craig Berland

7VG

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