Return-Path: Received: from olympus.net ([198.133.237.1]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 02:30:43 -0400 Received: from ptpm159.olympus.net ([198.133.237.189] helo=2thman) by olympus.net with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10xPYU-00020L-00 for lancair.list@olsusa.com; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 23:33:43 -0700 Message-ID: <003f01bebed5$a1d11be0$bded85c6@2thman> From: "Barrett/Burns" <2thman@olympus.net> To: "Lancair List" Subject: Preparing for bonding Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 23:39:46 -0700 X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Mr. Seay wrote, "Roughing up the surface does in fact INCREASE surface area. The higher the peaks and valleys the more the surface area, hence the courser the sandpaper, the rougher the surface, thus the more the surface area. " I used to believe the same thing - early titanium implants (dental) had coarse threads and the devices were screwed into the bone for attachment. I stands to reason (I thought) that those threads would really hold the post in place. If all you've got is mechanical interlock, that is probably true. A non threaded bolt won't stay in a hole the way a threaded one will. But when you begin to think about retention through a bond - chemical ordinarily - surface area is the key to success. That's why many of the dental implants now are plasma coated with titanium - this gives a surface similar to a micro etched surface - . The guys that know say this provides a much greater surface area than any deep grooves or cuts. It's never been explained to me in a way I can understand it, but I've come to believe and know that it's true. I'd bet that some decent theoretical mathematicians could all agree on a formula to show this. Whether the formula would mean beans to me is another story entirely. Regards, John Barrett >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML homepage: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html