Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 00:36:24 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.137] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 547349 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 27 Nov 2004 09:51:42 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.139.137; envelope-from=MikeEasley@aol.com Received: from MikeEasley@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id q.198.32d56a7b (1320) for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2004 09:51:05 -0500 (EST) From: MikeEasley@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <198.32d56a7b.2ed9ee59@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 09:51:05 EST Subject: Re: [LML] Re: LAHSO X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1101567065" X-Mailer: AOL Strauss Beta Client sub 1180 -------------------------------1101567065 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I did some checking on LAHSO, primarily because I was surprised by the no-go-arounds and the no experimentals rules. I checked the current AIM, _http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/AIM/Chap4/aim0403.html#4-3-11_ (http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/AIM/Chap4/aim0403.html#4-3-11) . The current AIM says, "A LAHSO clearance does not preclude a rejected landing." and, "If a rejected landing becomes necessary after accepting a LAHSO clearance, the pilot should maintain safe separation from other aircraft or vehicles, and should promptly notify the controller." On the subject of whether experimental aircraft are prohibited. An older document says they are prohibited, something about "certificated landing distance". The current AIM doesn't mention experimental aircraft, but does prohibit student pilots, or anyone not familiar with the procedures, for conducting LAHSO operations. FAR Part 91 doesn't mention anything about LAHSO in the experimental aircraft operating limitations. I did notice when I researched the topic that there is a lot of old information on the subject floating around on the Internet. At one point in the LAHSO development there was a grouping of aircraft by landing distance. That was dropped. Now the "Pilot may accept such a clearance provided that the pilot-in-command determines that the aircraft can safely land and stop within the Available Landing Distance (ALD)." I also found a Powerpoint presentation that says "experimental aircraft are prohibited". So....... best I can tell...... you can do go-arounds and land experimental aircraft under LAHSO. Let the corrections begin! :-) Mike Easley Colorado Springs -------------------------------1101567065 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I did some checking on LAHSO, primarily because I was surprised by the=20 no-go-arounds and the no experimentals rules.

I checked the current AIM, http://www.= faa.gov/ATpubs/AIM/Chap4/aim0403.html#4-3-11.

The current AIM says, "A LAHSO clearance does not preclude a rejected=20 landing." and, "If a rejected landing becomes necessary after accepting a LA= HSO=20 clearance, the pilot should maintain safe separation from other aircraft or=20 vehicles, and should promptly notify the controller."

On the subject of whether experimental aircraft are prohibited. A= n=20 older document says they are prohibited, something about "certificated landi= ng=20 distance". The current AIM doesn't mention experimental=20 aircraft, but does prohibit student pilots, or anyone not familiar with the=20 procedures, for conducting LAHSO operations.

FAR Part 91 doesn't mention anything about LAHSO in the experimental=20 aircraft operating limitations.

I did notice when I researched the topic that there is a lot of old=20 information on the subject floating around on the Internet. At one poi= nt=20 in the LAHSO development there was a grouping of aircraft by landing=20 distance. That was dropped. Now the "Pilot may accept such a=20 clearance provided that the pilot-in-command determines that the aircraft ca= n=20 safely land and stop within the Available Landing Distance (ALD)." I a= lso=20 found a Powerpoint presentation that says "experimental aircraft are=20 prohibited".

So....... best I can tell...... you can do go-arounds and land=20 experimental aircraft under LAHSO.

Let the corrections begin! :-)

Mike Easley

Colorado Springs

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