Return-Path: Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.67]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:33:11 -0400 Received: from Fredmoreno@aol.com (2613) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id kDCSa08612 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:35:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Fredmoreno@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:35:13 EDT Subject: cockpit ANR To: lancair.list@olsusa.com X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> I have had similar thoughts. One has been to put speakers facing up on the top of the panel, reflecting off the windshield, and canceling the propeller beat coming in through the windshield. I subsequently learned that the most successful ANR in a cabin was in a helicopter where the frequencies are low and the wavelengths long. As wavelengths shorten and bounce around, cancellation becomes more difficult. ANR headsets work because they cancel right at the ear. I spoke to a few headset guys at OH, and they said it is much more complicated that it first appears. So I am not hopeful, but would like someone smarter than me to fire some neurons at the problem and see if there is a way. At least we should be able to get rid of the low frequency stuff in our small cabins. Would some acousto-techno type care to comment? Related: those little foam ear plugs provide 28 dB of isolation. For years I have used a boom mike clipped to a custom ear piece in one ear, and foam in the other when flying in hot weather. Works fine. Or for the ultimate, put foam plugs in your ears, then don your head set and turn up the volume. It gets nice and quiet inside the cranium. Except for the low frequency stuff which jiggles the bone a bit. Fred >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML homepage: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html