Return-Path: Received: from olympus.net ([198.133.237.1]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 03:00:56 -0400 Received: from ptpm135.olympus.net ([198.133.237.165] helo=2thman) by olympus.net with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10uWDI-0001QE-00 for lancair.list@olsusa.com; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 00:03:52 -0700 Message-ID: <001401beb890$5e3e5fa0$a5ed85c6@2thman> From: "Barrett/Burns" <2thman@olympus.net> To: "Lancair List" Subject: methylene chloride Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 00:08:50 -0700 X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Dana Westphal refers to the manual calling for a reverse order to the prep process from that expounded in the LML; that is sand first, then use MC. He also talks about 80 grit and 40 grit sandpaper being called for in the manual at different times. I haven't seen the call for 80 grit - only 40 grit in my IVP fastbuild manual. Not to say it isn't there, I just haven't seen it. I do know that in dentistry (if you'll forgive the analogy) we used to use very coarse abrasives for retention. Example: use a coarse diamond stone to rough up the surface of a tooth to help retain the crown with the cement. As technology and understanding has progressed, dentistry has discovered that those efforts were counterproductive. The amount of retention is directly proportional to surface area. Surface area is greatest with the finest grit of abrasive material. We now use micro-etching which is sandblasting with 5 micron aluminum oxide to rough up surfaces prior to bonding. Intuitively we want to see some rough gouges in a surface to convince ourselves that the bond will be strong, but actually a very fine frosty appearance will provide more of that surface area for the greatest bond. As for the sequence of events, we micro abrade last - whenever possible - except where we want a chemical bond to be enhanced by a surface activator we can paint on to the bonding surface. These concepts generally apply to bonding of metals, porcelains and composite materials that we use. I am not a scientist and have no knowledge that these principals carry accross to the world of fiberglass and resin bonding. I only know that this is the current understanding in dentistry. Regards, John Barrett >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML homepage: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html