Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:17:09 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.38] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b2) with ESMTP id 3193491 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:11:42 -0400 Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r1.3.) id q.b2.2b3ac68a (4238) for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:11:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:11:37 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Re: N511WD X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1083082297" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 880 -------------------------------1083082297 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/27/2004 10:37:21 AM Central Standard Time, rfreilich@sbcglobal.net writes: Wendell was on an IFR flight plan with an airplane that was NOT IFR equipped. 511WD was heavily and exceptionally outfitted on the NAV/AP side but questionable on basic primary instruments even for VFR sunny bunnies. Rich, Why are you so focused on what you don't know? Have you seen the log books? If the plane was FAA FARs "not IFR equipped", then it is another example of compounded judgement (no pun intended) error and illegal to boot. If instruments were placed in illogical (not scan friendly) places, another error in judgement and ergonomics. However, the gear lights and switch are well located. Maybe it was out of trim when the A/P disconnected or maybe, like the Canadian Cirrus numbnut, the fuel load in the wings was so unbalanced that any upset was not recoverable. Maybe the electrical system was not well thought out and any failure was catastrophic - not like my certified Skymaster that had all the interior lights on one breaker, lose one, lose'm all. It is an experimental aircraft and most of us do better with our stuff than rigidly fixed ancient erroneous designs forced to stay the same bad way so that when you rent an aircraft, each one works the same bad way. Sometimes, we just learn from other's mistakes if we know what they were. Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk Sky2high@aol.com II-P N92EX IO320 Aurora, IL (KARR) LML, where ideas collide and you decide! -------------------------------1083082297 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 4/27/2004 10:37:21 AM Central Standard Time,=20 rfreilich@sbcglobal.net writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3D#= 000000=20 size=3D3>Wendell was on an IFR flight plan=20= with=20 an airplane that was NOT IFR equipped.  511WD was heavily and=20 exceptionally outfitted on the NAV/AP side but questionable on basic prima= ry=20 instruments even for VFR sunny bunnies.<= /DIV>
Rich,
 
Why are you so focused on what you don't know?  Have you seen the=20= log=20 books?  If the plane was FAA FARs "not IFR equipped", then it is anothe= r=20 example of compounded judgement (no pun intended) error and illegal to=20 boot.  If instruments were placed in illogical (not scan=20 friendly) places, another error in judgement and ergonomics.  Howe= ver,=20 the gear lights and switch are well located. 
 
Maybe it was out of trim when the A/P disconnected or maybe, like the=20 Canadian Cirrus numbnut, the fuel load in the wings was so unbalanced t= hat=20 any upset was not recoverable.  Maybe the electrical system was not wel= l=20 thought out and any failure was catastrophic - not like my certified Skymast= er=20 that had all the interior lights on one breaker, lose one, lose'm all.
 
It is an experimental aircraft and most of us do better with our stuff=20  than rigidly fixed ancient erroneous designs forced to stay the same b= ad=20 way so that when you rent an aircraft, each one works the same bad way.
 
Sometimes, we just learn from other's mistakes if we know what they=20 were.
 
 
Scott Krueger=20 AKA Grayhawk
Sky2high@aol.com
II-P N92EX IO320 Aurora, IL=20 (KARR)

LML, where ideas collide and you=20 decide!
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