Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 00:40:40 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.137] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b2) with ESMTP id 3192364 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 23:13:31 -0400 Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r1.3.) id q.d9.8ee1b74 (4238) for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 23:13:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 23:13:26 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Re: N511WD X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1083035606" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 880 -------------------------------1083035606 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/26/2004 7:12:24 PM Central Standard Time, rfreilich@sbcglobal.net writes: From the linked photos, there appears to be a non-certified Blue Mountain EFIS/ONE in the _panel mock-up_ (http://w1.lancair.net/pix/wendell/MVC_017S) , but the _installed panel_ (http://w1.lancair.net/pix/wendell/MVC_008S) shows an equally non-certified Dynon EFIS-D10 and a Garmin GPSMAP196. Neither the Garmin or Dynon electronic displays are recommended for IFR flight or even as primary instruments in VFR (without back-up -Dynon). There is no AI backup. I don't see a wet compass at all. Also out of the normal scan range is what appears to be an altimeter and airspeed indicator on the passenger side. IMHO, this panel was seriously deficient. Rich, As I look at the installed panel pix, I also see a Garmin 430 in the radio stack and the fanciest Tru-Trak (independent electronic gyros) autopilot that could be used as a backup in case the AI went out. This assumes all was wired correctly and tested. Other replies indicate the plane was lost in a thunderstorm - If that's the case it may not have mattered what was in the panel. I think I will wait for the NTSB report. Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk Sky2high@aol.com II-P N92EX IO320 Aurora, IL (KARR) LML, where ideas collide and you decide! PS: The new Garmin handheld has terrain warnings and vertical guidance - I am still waiting for that availability in my 430.... -------------------------------1083035606 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In a message dated 4/26/2004 7:12:24 PM Central Standard Time,=20 rfreilich@sbcglobal.net writes:

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From the linked=20 photos, there appears to be a non-certified Blue Mountain EFIS/ONE in the=20= panel mock-up, but= the=20 installed panel sh= ows an=20 equally non-certified Dynon EFIS-D10 and a Garmin GPSMAP196. Neither= the=20 Garmin or Dynon electronic displays are recommended for IFR flight or even= as=20 primary instruments in VFR (without back-up -Dynon). There is no AI=20 backup. I don't see a wet compass at all. Also out of the normal sca= n=20 range is what appears to be an altimeter and airspeed indicator on the=20 passenger side. IMHO, this panel was seriously deficient. =20

Rich,

As I look at the installed panel pix, I also see a Garmin 430 in the ra= dio=20 stack and the fanciest Tru-Trak (independent electronic gyros) autopilot tha= t=20 could be used as a backup in case the AI went out. This assumes all wa= s=20 wired correctly and tested. Other replies indicate the plane was lost=20= in a=20 thunderstorm - If that's the case it may not have mattered what was in the=20 panel. I think I will wait for the NTSB report.=20

Scott Krueger=20 AKA Grayhawk
Sky2high@aol.com
II-P N92EX IO320 Aurora, IL=20 (KARR)

LML, where ideas collide and you decide!

PS: The new Garmin handheld has terrain warnings and vertical guidance=20= - I=20 am still waiting for that availability in my 430....

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