Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #20954
From: John Barrett <2thman@olympus.net>
Sender: Marvin Kaye <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: RE: [LML] Re: SPAM[RBL] [LML] Re: IV-P IFR training
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 23:50:18 -0400
To: <lml>
Yep, I've had that happen a couple times in heavy snow - you get a slug of the wet stuff and just about the time you're trying to remember where the alternate air source is, the thing fires right back up. 
 
Those experiences (for me) were the extremes and occurred when I decided to go into heavy precip in pretty hard IFR conditions over mountain passes where there's lots of unstable air.  These conditions were forecast and reported during my weather brief.  I essentially knew the risks I was taking.  I'm not saying this a a good thing for every new IFR pilot to do, or for that matter, for most IFR trained pilots to ever do.  I'm comfortable with it sometimes, but I doubt if many pilots are or even should be. 
 
But there is one HUGE gap between flying in these conditions and not flying in the clouds ever, or even not flying in the clouds unless you have a low marine layer with no zero degree temps, etc, etc. as has been suggested in related postings. There are a myriad of IFR days with below freezing temps where you can fly IFR, avoid almost all risky encounters and still get from A to B MORE safely than trying to dodge the clouds and get there VFR.  I've had some friends and acquaintances over the years who tried to fly VFR when they should have gone IFR and I miss them now that they're dead.
 
I'll say it again - the engines don't stop running just because they encounter the clouds!
 

Regards,
John Barrett
Barrett/Garrett Enterprises, Inc.
PO Box 428
Pt. Hadlock, WA 98339
www.carbinge.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of David Lowry
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 9:58 AM
To: Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] Re: SPAM[RBL] [LML] Re: IV-P IFR training

Well actually. I was climbing out on a missed approach and hit a wall of rain that
 killed the engine. I put the nose down and looked where the runway should be and it
 started up again. Still fly IFR though.
 David Lowry
 
----- the engines don't stop running just because they encounter the clouds.
 
 
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