Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 14:21:41 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from BAY0-HMR16.adinternal.hotmail.com ([65.54.241.215] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 2630348 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 14:12:15 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.173.162]) by BAY0-HMR16.adinternal.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Thu, 9 Oct 2003 11:12:13 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 11:12:13 -0700 Received: from 204.31.251.21 by bay5-dav132.bay5.hotmail.com with DAV; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 18:12:12 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [204.31.251.21] X-Originating-Email: [cgainza@msn.com] From: "Craig Gainza" X-Original-To: "list lancair" Subject: IV-P IFR traning X-Original-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 11:12:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_04BA_01C38E56.2F348A90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 8.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V8.50.0017.1202 Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 11:12:10 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Oct 2003 18:12:13.0219 (UTC) FILETIME=[DD16A730:01C38E90] X-Original-Return-Path: cgainza@msn.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_04BA_01C38E56.2F348A90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I received my instrument certificate in the last year. It was quite a = process. I've reviewed the hours spent in a simulator, a Cardinal RG = and eventually completing and taking my checkride in a 182RG. I can = think of no advantage to IV-P training in the first 20 hours. My = first 20 hours were in a Cardinal RG and a simulator and I felt pretty = inadequate in both. Adding the IV-P complexity in the first 20 hours, = seems ludicrous. My second 20 hours were in a 182 RG as part of the = cross country IFR training through Field and Rich Morey in Wisconsin. = Flying across country in actual IMC conditions is the best. I would = give this type of training strong consideration. Once competent and comfortable in the less complex airplanes, I would = recommend further IFR training with an instructor in the IV-P. By then = you will need training on GPS approaches that the primary training = didn't provide. Craig Gainza IV-P 85% ------=_NextPart_000_04BA_01C38E56.2F348A90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I received my instrument certificate in the last year. It was = quite a=20 process. I've reviewed the hours spent in a simulator, a = Cardinal RG and eventually completing and taking my checkride in a=20 182RG. I can think of no advantage to IV-P = training=20 in the first 20 hours. My first 20 hours were in a Cardinal RG and = a=20 simulator and I felt pretty inadequate in both. Adding the IV-P = complexity=20 in the first 20 hours, seems ludicrous. My second 20 = hours were in a=20 182 RG as part of the cross country IFR training through Field and Rich = Morey in=20 Wisconsin. Flying across country in actual IMC conditions is the=20 best. I would give this type of training strong = consideration.

Once competent and comfortable in the less complex airplanes, I = would=20 recommend further IFR training with an instructor in the IV-P. By = then you=20 will need training on GPS approaches that the primary training didn't=20 provide.

Craig Gainza

IV-P 85%

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