Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 13:46:09 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.7] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 2630261 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 12:30:33 -0400 Received: from VTAILJEFF@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id q.a5.405772e8 (3850) for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:30:12 -0400 (EDT) From: VTAILJEFF@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:30:11 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Re: IFR training in a IV-P? X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1065717011" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 1110 -------------------------------1065717011 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hamid, I am impressed, in a Mooney, no less-- however, I think you all are missing my point. As a flight instructor with considerable experience teaching, it is my humble opinion, that a person is better off LEARNING to fly in something that is not quite so diificult and humbling as a Lancair IVP. I taught a person in a Bonanza and he spent more time messing around with landing gear, controllable prop, being challenged by higher approach speeds and a less stable instrument platform than he did concentrating on learing to fly an NDB hold or flying the S patterns. The end result was he got so frustrated that he never did complete his rating. TEACHING and LEARNING to fly is best done when it is unhindered by things that inhibit learning. See FAA-H-8083-9 Aviation Instructors Handbook for more details. As an designated pilot examiner, if I had an applicant who wanted to take his instrument checkride in a complex aircraft-- well more power to him. He just doesn't get any slack if he forgets to put the gear down at the marker, or neglects to put in the prop for the go around. Its still a bust. And yes, I have seen these things happen, personnally. The checkride is hard enough-- why make it harder? Again, this is only my humble opinion based on my limited experience. I am not saying it can't be done.... it's just more difficult for both the student and the instructor. Jeff Edwards CFI (I) -------------------------------1065717011 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hamid,

I am impressed, in a Mooney, no less-- however, I think you all a= re missing my point. As a flight instructor with considerable experienc= e teaching, it is my humble opinion, that a person is better off LEARNING to= fly in something that is not quite so diificult and humbling as a Lancair I= VP. I taught a person in a Bonanza and he spent more time messing around wit= h landing gear, controllable prop, being challenged by higher approach speed= s and a less stable instrument platform than he did concentrating on learing= to fly an NDB hold or flying the S patterns. The end result was he got so f= rustrated that he never did complete his rating.

TEACHING and LEARNING to fly is best done when it is unhindered by thin= gs that inhibit learning. See FAA-H-8083-9 Aviation Instructors Handbook for= more details.

As an designated pilot examiner, if I had an applicant who wanted to ta= ke his instrument checkride in a complex aircraft-- well more power to him.=20= He just doesn't get any slack if he forgets to put the gear down at the mark= er, or neglects to put in the prop for the go around. Its still a bust. And=20= yes, I have seen these things happen, personnally. The checkride is hard eno= ugh-- why make it harder?

Again, this is only my humble opinion based on my limited experience. I= am not saying it can't be done.... it's just more difficult for both the st= udent and the instructor.

Jeff Edwards

CFI (I)

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