Return-Path: Received: from [65.173.216.66] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.1.3) with HTTP id 2584367 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 18 Sep 2003 11:36:03 -0400 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Bonding aluminum To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.1.3 Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 11:36:03 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "John Barrett" <2thman@olympus.net>: Metal to metal bonding (aluminum) is a desirable goal and I'm not surprised to know that it is achievable. Look at the literature on the subject over the years. It wasn't that long ago that it was thought to be impossible or at least totally exotic. With improvements in adhesives, it has become feasible. But the real breakthrough is in prepping materials and techniques. Previously, there was no way short of working in a controlled atmosphere to remove the oxidation products well enough and even if you could, the oxide layer would reform too fast to allow a bond. When bonding aluminum to composite, there is more to consider - the coefficients of expansion need to be factored in. Even though the adhesive may be as strong as you need, if the materials on either side of the bond are changing dimension at a different rate during temperature cycles, your bond may lose strength as it experiences thermal cycling. John Barrett