Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 16:53:06 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.97] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.3) with ESMTP id 2579236 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 14 Sep 2003 16:26:59 -0400 Received: from RWolf99@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id q.1c5.e5348fe (4012) for ; Sun, 14 Sep 2003 16:26:55 -0400 (EDT) From: RWolf99@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <1c5.e5348fe.2c96290e@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 16:26:54 EDT Subject: Va and Rough Air Speeds X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 108 There actually IS a difference between "manneuvering speed" (Va) and "rough air penetration speed" also known as "maximum structural cruising speed" (Vno). Maneuvering speed is the highest speed where you can't bend the airplane by pulling back on the stick. The wing stalls at maximum design load factor. The rough air penetration speed is the highest speed where an FAA-specified gust factor will not bend the airplane. It's not the same thing. Since the gust may not be as effective at raising the angle-of-attack of the wing as hauling back on the stick, Vno is sometimes higher than Va. In my Cessna 150, for example, Va is 109 mph and Vno is 120 mph. (Not that I care about that since I couldn't cruise that fast anyway...) An important thing to remember is that Mother Nature doesn't care what the FAA says, and there may be gusts out there higher than the FAA designated "highest likely gust". Like, for instance, in a thunderstorm. You are always protected against breaking your wing by flying at Va -- not so at Vno. - Rob Wolf