Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 00:58:17 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [32.97.166.31] (HELO prserv.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.3) with ESMTP id 2569346 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:27:02 -0400 Received: from b8p5r1 (slip-12-64-234-22.mis.prserv.net[12.64.234.22]) by prserv.net (out1) with SMTP id <2003090602270020103l8k20e>; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 02:27:00 +0000 From: "Larry Henney" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: RE: [LML] Egads, further to the Redmond 100? X-Original-Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:32:09 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <000101c3741f$1304dd80$16ea400c@b8p5r1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0002_01C373F5.2A2ED580" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C373F5.2A2ED580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scott, Last year Lance made the same comment. Ie. The turn radius adder was Not included in the times. Judging by my reported speed last year I suspect it to be irrelevant. They said I went really fast. With an increase in altitude my TAS normally loses a couple kts. Thus, the race shouldn't have produced normal speeds but a little slower than "normal". On the other hand, the winds aloft last year had a 90 deg shift from the surface to 3K AGL and they were huge as one climbed. Being high on the tailwind leg floored my Groundspeed. The point is that decreasing TAS with increasing altitude and variable winds probably play a much greater role in actual time to finish than the couple mile turn radii argument. Oh, and did I mention that "marketing" may have a role in published speeds? Larry Henney LNC2 N360LH Darn sad to miss the race as Copperstate and Golden West are canceled this year :( ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C373F5.2A2ED580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Scott,
 
Last year Lance made the same = comment. =20 Ie. The turn radius adder was Not included in the times.  Judging = by my=20 reported speed last year I suspect it to be irrelevant.  They said = I went=20 really fast.
 
With an increase in altitude my = TAS normally=20 loses a couple kts.  Thus, the race shouldn't have produced normal = speeds=20 but a little slower than "normal". 
 
On the other hand, the winds aloft = last year=20 had a 90 deg shift from the surface to 3K AGL and they were huge as one=20 climbed.  Being high on the tailwind leg floored my=20 Groundspeed.
 
The point is that decreasing TAS = with=20 increasing altitude and variable winds probably play a much greater role = in=20 actual time to finish than the couple mile turn radii argument.  = Oh, and=20 did I mention that "marketing" may have a role in published = speeds?
 
Larry Henney
LNC2 N360LH
 
Darn sad to miss the race as = Copperstate and=20 Golden West are canceled this year :(
 
 
 
 
 
 
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