Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:03:26 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp.comcast.net ([24.153.64.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 2047851 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 17:51:25 -0500 Received: from cp172883-b.arlngt01.va.comcast.net (pcp735631pcs.arlngt01.va.comcast.net [68.50.58.204]) by mtaout04.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HBI00F6P7FI0X@mtaout04.icomcast.net> for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 17:51:24 -0500 (EST) X-Original-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 17:54:55 -0500 From: Bob Pastusek Subject: RE: [LML] Re: FUEL SURGE In-reply-to: X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Reply-to: rpastusek@htii.com X-Original-Message-id: <007201c2e68e$e70e1700$6601a8c0@cp172883-b.arlngt01.va.comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal For a year I have been discussing with some fellow Lancair owners about my engine fuel surge problem. N9070R IVP. Today it happened again and for the first time I was able to look at the fuel pressure gage. The pressure came down from 23.8 to 10psi... Your thoughts, Noel Noel, This sounds to me like fuel pump cavitation. It could be from a small leak that allows air to enter the fuel system between the tank and the pump, or a partial blockage in this section of the fuel system. Two other potential causes are noted in the next paragraph. The easiest "blockage" to check for is in the selector valve itself. Take the fittings out of your fuel selector and confirm that the valve passageways line up well. Specifically check to confirm that when the selector is in the detent for left wing, the holes align. I've seen two selectors that partially block the passageways in the left tank position due to manufacturing sloppiness. The next thing is to check for kinks or flattened bends in the fuel line between the left tank and the selector. This is easy to do during construction, and difficult to detect when installed in some areas. Lastly, almost every leak large enough to allow air to enter the fuel system will result in a small amount of fuel leakage as well. Look for any wet or discolored areas around joints and fittings--any at all is cause to fix. Last area to check is the flapper valve in the left wing. Don Goetz used to check them by bouncing the wing up and down. The valve will make a distinct clicking sound as it opens and closes due to fuel sloshing. If the left side valve sounds different when compared to the right side, I'd investigate further. Specifically, it's easy for Hysol to drip onto the valve during wing closing. This can cause the valve to stick open--allowing the left pickup tube to "unport" and suck air during any uncoordinated flight/maneuvering that moves the left wing fuel away from the pickup port, or it can be stuck closed, causing the sump part of the left tank to be exhausted during normal flight. The flapper valve has a small hole that allows a little fuel to come through even when closed, and fuel can enter this compartment from an opening near the top wing skin, so it's not as simple to diagnose as you might first think. It seems to me that if the first flapper valve situation is your problem, you'd notice it during maneuvering/uncoordinated flight, and if the latter, during or just after high power operation such as climb out. You've probably thought of and tried these, but if not, worth considering. Bob Pastusek ############################################################# For archives see the LML website: http://www.lancaironline.net/maillist.html LML members receive a 10% discount at http://www.buildersbooks.com