Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 01:39:03 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from fl-mta05.durocom.com ([216.53.195.247] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.2) with ESMTP id 1892420 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 21:15:46 -0500 Received: from 1vne2 ([199.78.36.106]) by fl-mta05.durocom.com with SMTP id <20021202021536.KSHL24999.fl-mta05@1vne2> for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:15:36 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <001001c299aa$569e4c20$6a244ec7@1vne2> From: "Brad and Tracy Simmons" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: The last word on bodywork X-Original-Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 20:27:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 If you don't want your primer to shrink, do the work in Puerto Rico, in the summertime, over a six month time span. Shrinkage occurs for a variety of reasons: 1. Primer is put on too thick. The first applications of primer need to be worked down into the weave minimizing the places for primer to shrink into. Put it on with a foam paint roller and a squeegee. Thin the first couple of coats and work them in (especially you ES and 320 guys) prior to fire-hosing on 100 pounds of dead weight. Don't expect primer to cover less than perfect micro work. If you plan to fix bad micro work by putting on 26 full wet coats of primer, you didn't do your micro work right. You also need to go on a diet. 2. The body work is done too fast. All brands/types of primer need to be allowed to dry fully BEFORE SANDING. If you sand primer that's not dry and it shrinks back into the weave, whatareyagonnasee? Follow the manufacturers directions regarding flash time, film build and recoat time. I like to wait a week before sanding, if possible. 3. Heat. Heat will cure the primer faster. In Tennessee, in the summertime, I'll roll a primed airplane out into the sun for a couple of days prior to sanding. In those two days, you can actually see the primer shrink back. The WLS (epoxy) won't shrink as much as the polyester or urethane products, but it all shrinks. I can see weave in things we have painted in the wintertime more readily than projects done in June. 4. Polyester skim coats. Some people like to skim coat all their micro work or bare weave areas with spot putty. My experience is, polyester is the most shrinkage prone product out there, followed by urethane, then epoxy. I didn't even mention lacquer, as it was out of date 30 years ago. You can sit and watch it shrink, if it doesen't fall off the plane. If you must skim coat, use a catalyzed spot putty product. The best defense against shrinkage is to shim coat the entire surface with a thin layer of micro. Lots of work, but better and lighter than using bondo or a 55 gallon drum of filler-primer. When applying micro, always paint a light coat of resin first, then apply the micro as dry as possible Fluorescent lights are always going to show all the imperfections. Even mine. If you can make it look great under fl. lights, I'd like to offer you a job. You will still be the guy that wet sands the belly. Brad Simmons EAA/Sportair Lancair Instructor Airframes Inc. Milan, TN