Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:10:59 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.5] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b9) with ESMTP id 1805005 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 05:52:11 -0400 Received: from Newlan2dl@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id q.125.184ae1cf (25914) for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 05:52:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Newlan2dl@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <125.184ae1cf.2adbedc7@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 05:52:07 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] White Foam X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10637 Hi Jerry Any of the strofoams work-either beaded or solid-and you can get it at a hardware store as insulation. The blue foam shapes easily and is cheap. However my preference for plug making is wood. The problem with the "lost wax" method of laminating is that you end up with a God awful bunch of toxic sludge and the back of the part that was against the part is left very rough and requires a lot of cleaning to get rid of the residue. A slight variation I did use once was to tape over the plug and once, I also stretched some Saran wrap over it. That also allowed me to use polyester resin for the part. If you want to go fancy, build in wood and finish the surface with Ram primer or Featherfill, both are polyester based spray or brush on sanding primers that can be sanded and buffed if you want a really nice part or just lightly sanded and waxed. The parts come out great! And you can see how deeply the wax "soaks" up into the paint leaving it darker. However, just plain wood releases beautifully when waxed and can leave a decent surface although some grain will come through. One trick to eliminate that is to brush on a sanding "gelcoat" of epoxy. All you have to do is mix a little micro balloons and fumed silica (Cabosil) together in about 25/75% volumetric ratios with the epoxy until it is just shy of being thixotropic, (leaving it just a tad runny will allow it to level itself a bit on the surface), then brush on to the surface. Once stiffened up you can continue the lamination then when popped off of the plug, you can do some sanding without getting into the structure. And if you don't go into the fibers and want to paint it, you can do so without the prime/sand step. I always keep a gallon can of Featherfill in my shop since I build a lot of molds and plugs. I also keep around a few sheets of melamine finished particle board for plugs or molds since it is cheap and easy to work and requires no finishing in order to be ready to wax and laminate. In fact just this last week I used both to build a keel trunk for my boat and will be using more for the new engine box. Since these were all basically flat sided, I only used the Featherfill to finish the raw edges of the particleboard. The parts came out perfect as if they were from a highly finished mold but in fact it was a one use, then toss away plug. I've also used the melamine board as a mold for making flat cored panels. Dan Newland