Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 12:33:24 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com ([65.24.0.112] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b7) with ESMTP id 1712726 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 11:14:56 -0400 Received: from NOTEBOOK (dhcp9570127.columbus.rr.com [24.95.70.127]) by clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id g7RFEse14637 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 11:14:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-Message-ID: <001101c24ddc$7e5ad0e0$6601a8c0@NOTEBOOK> From: "Joseph Trepicone" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: [LML] Re: Fw: FYI- Darus Zehrbach - learn ALL the facts first X-Original-Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 11:14:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C24DBA.F36B0C50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C24DBA.F36B0C50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hamid Wasti wrote:=20 I have read the entire appellate court opinion on Darus's unsuccessful = appeal ... You are right, the issues in those cases were not about his = ability as an engineer or connected to his current venture... Darus = Zehrback was found guilty, not once, but twice, of committing fraud and = lying. If you feel that has no reflection on the claims he is currently = making, then I guess you must be the person they are talking about in = the saying: There is a sucker born every day. Hi group,=20 Building an aircraft, especially one as complex as a Lancair, is an = extremely difficult project. An amateur builder like me, must rely on = every resource available to help create something that will be safe, = fast, fun and hopefully professional looking. This forum is quite = probably my single biggest resource I have and I silently thank those = responsible each time I learn something new. It is not the place for = personal attacks and I will not tarnish it's significance by doing so.=20 I am not endorsing the TIIV 650. I am carefully watching its development = and suggesting time will tell if it is the "real deal".=20 If I had the expertise required to create an engine - and I most = certainly do not - what would I create? My "wish list" may be something = like this:=20 1.. 1. Direct Drive=20 2.. 2. Thermal Ceramics cylinders=20 c.. 3. Dry film solid lubricant coatings=20 d.. 4. Liquid Cooling with the inlets, radiator, and exhaust inline to = reduce cooling drag=20 e.. 5. Tuned Exhaust=20 f.. 6. Inverted 90 degree "V" design for max compactness and rod = length and to prevent steam pockets in the heads and improve cooling.=20 g.. 7. A crankcase sump allowing critical engine parts (valve train, = etc) to run in an oil bath not sprayed with oil.=20 h.. 8. "Y" block for stiffness (blocks distort)=20 i.. 9. Internal balancing not with a flywheel=20 j.. 10. Dual Electronic Ignition=20 k.. 11. Digital direct port electronic fuel injection (injected back = far enough to completely vaporize the fuel for max combustion)=20 l.. 12. Gapless piston rings with forged pistons=20 m.. 13. Roller rocker arms=20 n.. 14. 2.75 OD crank not the now famous 2.25 we all know=20 o.. 15. Low drag cowl designed for the aerodynamics of liquid cooling = not air cooling=20 p.. 16. Turbo normalizing (not over blown)=20 q.. 17. Ability to run on 92 octane unleaded fuel and still maintain = adequate power=20 r.. 18. A lot of horse power - perhaps 400 at 29,000 to max the = capability of the IV airframe (not even the turbine comes close to = that).=20 With the exception of the last all of these are proven to be on the = Zehrbach engine. Soon that last will be confirmed. As I said before = "time will tell". Don't we owe it to ourselves to wait and see?=20 There are many more features to this engine I can not remember, but I = believe my point is made. As I stated in the beginning I am not and = engine designer or engineer and I do not proclaim to be.=20 I believe one of the major problems of this world is the lack of vision = by many of us. We see things as they are and lack the ability, or the = inclination, to see things as they could be and quite probably should = be. It is easier for us; it allows us to cope better perhaps. I've been = an architect for many years and I combat this condition every single = day.=20 Years ago an architect named Frank Lloyd Wright designed a house not far = from Mr. Zehrbach's shop as a matter of fact. This magnificent house, = like no other, was nestled in the woods and had large balconies = cantilever over a waterfall. Critics said it would not stand and, in the = public's interest, tried desperately to stop its construction. They = failed and so in 1936 when Wright had just completed the project he = invited his "vision deprived" critics to visit the site. He even = provided lawn chairs for their comfort and, while they watched, walked = out to farthest point of the largest balcony and preceded to violently = jump up and down as hard as he could. The house stood and his critics = were disappointed but the masterpiece is here today for all of us to = enjoy and it is recognized as one of the most significant architectural = works of the 20th century.=20 I have no doubt Mr. Wasti would have been invited then and perhaps now = Mr. Zehrbach will continue the tradition. best regard,=20 Joe Trepicone ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C24DBA.F36B0C50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hamid Wasti wrote:=20

I have read the entire appellate court opinion on Darus's = unsuccessful appeal=20 ... You are right, the issues in those cases were not about his ability = as an=20 engineer or connected to his current venture... Darus Zehrback was found = guilty,=20 not once, but twice, of committing fraud and lying. If you feel that has = no=20 reflection on the claims he is currently making, then I guess you must = be the=20 person they are talking about in the saying: There is a sucker born = every=20 day.

Hi group,=20

Building an aircraft, especially one as complex as a Lancair, is an = extremely=20 difficult project. An amateur builder like me, must rely on every = resource=20 available to help create something that will be safe, fast, fun and = hopefully=20 professional looking. This forum is quite probably my single biggest = resource I=20 have and I silently thank those responsible each time I learn something = new. It=20 is not the place for personal attacks and I will not tarnish it's = significance=20 by doing so.=20

I am not endorsing the TIIV 650. I am carefully watching its = development and=20 suggesting time will tell if it is the "real deal".

If I had the expertise required to create an engine - and I most = certainly do=20 not - what would I create? My "wish list" may be something like=20 this: =

  1. 1. Direct Drive
  2. 2. Thermal Ceramics cylinders =
  3. 3. Dry film solid lubricant coatings =
  4. 4. Liquid Cooling with the inlets, radiator, and exhaust inline to = reduce=20 cooling drag
  5. 5. Tuned Exhaust
  6. 6. Inverted 90 degree "V" design for max compactness and rod = length and to=20 prevent steam pockets in the heads and improve cooling.=20
  7. 7. A crankcase sump allowing critical engine parts (valve train, = etc) to=20 run in an oil bath not sprayed with oil. =
  8. 8. "Y" block for stiffness (blocks distort)=20
  9. 9. Internal balancing not with a flywheel=20
  10. 10. Dual Electronic Ignition =
  11. 11. Digital direct port electronic fuel injection (injected back = far=20 enough to completely vaporize the fuel for max combustion)=20
  12. 12. Gapless piston rings with forged pistons =
  13. 13. Roller rocker arms
  14. 14. 2.75 OD crank not the now famous 2.25 we all know
  15. 15. Low drag cowl designed for the aerodynamics of liquid cooling = not air=20 cooling
  16. 16. Turbo normalizing (not over blown)=20
  17. 17. Ability to run on 92 octane unleaded fuel and still maintain = adequate=20 power
  18. 18. A lot of horse power - perhaps 400 at 29,000 to max the = capability of=20 the IV airframe (not even the turbine comes close to = that).

With the exception of the last all of these are proven to be on the = Zehrbach=20 engine. Soon that last will be confirmed. As I said before "time will = tell".=20 Don't we owe it to ourselves to wait and see?

There are many more features to this engine I can not remember, but I = believe=20 my point is made. As I stated in the beginning I am not and engine = designer or=20 engineer and I do not proclaim to be.

I believe one of the major problems of this world is the lack of = vision by=20 many of us. We see things as they are and lack the ability, or the = inclination,=20 to see things as they could be and quite probably should be. It is = easier for=20 us; it allows us to cope better perhaps. I've been an architect for many = years=20 and I combat this condition every single day.

Years ago an architect named Frank Lloyd Wright designed a house not = far from=20 Mr. Zehrbach's shop as a matter of fact. This magnificent house, like no = other,=20 was nestled in the woods and had large balconies cantilever over a = waterfall.=20 Critics said it would not stand and, in the public's interest, tried = desperately=20 to stop its construction. They failed and so in 1936 when Wright had = just=20 completed the project he invited his "vision deprived" critics to visit = the=20 site. He even provided lawn chairs for their comfort and, while they = watched,=20 walked out to farthest point of the largest balcony and preceded to = violently=20 jump up and down as hard as he could. The house stood and his critics = were=20 disappointed but the masterpiece is here today for all of us to enjoy = and it is=20 recognized as one of the most significant architectural works of the = 20th=20 century.

I have no doubt Mr. Wasti would have been invited then and perhaps=20 now Mr. Zehrbach will continue the tradition.

best regard,

Joe Trepicone

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