Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 19:15:26 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.103] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b2) with ESMTP id 1281126 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 18:18:40 -0400 Received: from RWolf99@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id q.31.27d7df36 (3973) for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 18:18:39 -0400 (EDT) From: RWolf99@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <31.27d7df36.2a2d453e@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 18:18:38 EDT Subject: Re: Non standard metal props on Lancair 320/360 X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 108 Concerning the fatal prop separation on N320L (the red factory 320) and Jim Frantz' comments on propeller suitability -- 1) Jim is absolutely right. Much analysis and sometimes testing is done on engine and propeller combinations. Personally, I would not fly behind an unapproved combination -- but some people call me a wimp. 2) N320L may not have crashed due to an unacceptable propeller and engine combination. The following are exerpts from the NTSB report on the crash. "The propeller was not found in the engine crater nor recovered near the wreckage site. The crankshaft was sheared at the propeller flange. The crankshaft was retained for further testing A farmer who lives near the accident site discovered the propeller located approximately 115 degrees at 3,000 feet from the accident site while harvesting his crops. Both propeller blades and hub assembly appeared undamaged with the crankshaft flange still attached to the hub." Why did this happen? More excerpts... "The crankshaft flange was examined by the NTSB's Metallurgical Laboratory in Washington, D.C.. The NTSB metallurgist's factual report on the crankshaft flange stated "...examination of the propeller mounting flange showed that five of the six fracture areas between lightening holes contained evidence of fatigue cracking." Further examination of the fatigue cracking in the flange revealed no evidence of scratch marks, abusive machining damage, or other defects that may have contributed to the initiation of the cracking. The thickness of the propeller mounting flange was measured as 0.255 inches. A representative of Lycoming stated that the specified thickness of the propeller mounting flange on a P/N 74780 crankshaft is 0.26 inches to 0.28 inches. Hardness measurements on the flange averaged 30.4 HRC, below the specified range of 32 HRC to 36 HRC. The propeller mounting flanges on the crankshaft from IO-320-B1A engines installed in Piper PA-30 airplanes are the subject of Airworthiness Directive (AD) 65-03-03 (referencing Lycoming Service Bulletin 300B). This AD requires visual or magnetic particle inspection of the propeller mounting flange before the next flight following certain aerobatic type maneuvers not approved for normal category aircraft. The compliance of this AD note is not required for experimental aircraft. The Pilot's Operating Handbook for the Lancair 320 allows for aerobatic maneuvers. " Why did the airplane crash after the crankshaft sheared? The report goes on to say that losing the mass of the prop pushed the CG well aft of the aft limit. I'm not pointing fingers at Lancair here, although it seems like the NTSB was trying to suggest there was a defective part which might have been detected had the AD been complied with. The point is that it's not clear that the 320L crash was caused by a prop failure due to an unapproved prop/engine combination. However, this sort of thing CAN happen with an unapproved engine/prop combination, which is the real lesson here. A prop failure may result in worse than just gliding to the nearest corn field, so if you think your risk with an unapproved combination is limited to an unscheduled off-airport landing, think again. Another lesson this teaches us, although off-the-topic, is a caution to pay attention to an AD even if compliance is not mandated by law. You may choose to not comply, but make sure it's for a better reason than "I don't have to." (And no, I'm not suggesting that Lancair did that.) - Rob Wolf