Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5b7) with ESMTP id 940863 for rob@logan.com; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 14:22:46 -0400 Received: from mail.rkymtnhi.com ([65.204.204.202]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:36:48 -0400 Received: from rkymtnhi.com (204.131.47.59) by mail.rkymtnhi.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.1b1) for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:49:01 -0600 Message-ID: <3BD98724.44A54473@rkymtnhi.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:54:12 -0600 From: Builder's Bookstore MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Subject: Re: Commercial Check, etc... References: <66A548E9A894D51187FB0008C7CF284C6AE68F@clt-exch-05.capmark.funb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > It is legal. Now, is it smart? > > I disagree. During my training, approximately 33 hours was spent under the > hood, 1.5 hours in actual, and about 10 hours on the simulator. BUT, I > couldn't have told you, during that 34.5 hours in the plane, whether or not > I was in actual. Actually, as being "almost a virgin" in this matter I tend to agree with Jeff. My single IMC experience came for about an hour in the right seat of a C-182. I was amazed at the total elimination of reference. I've got 6-7 hours of hood time and it was nothing like it. Even though I knew the mechanicals and most of the procedures, the sensations were startling. Under the hood, no matter how well you adjust it, you can still see a bit of the world out of the corner of your eyes, at least enough to know if you are right side up or up side down. Plus, under the hood, you know that at anytime, you can just flip it up and be back to "normal". That psychological difference alone is enough to minimize any sense of real stress and let you give your full concentration to what you're doing. The only experience I've had that can even remotely compare to this has been skiing in completely white-out conditions. Such white-out that you could not discern the snow you were standing on giving you a noticeable sense of vertigo, and literally not even knowing if you were moving or standing still. As soon as you'd get lower on the mountain to where the fog thinned enough to be able to see the snow beneath you, the whole situation changed. You still couldn't see the guys you are skiing with or upcoming pitch changes of the slope (cliffs and cornices), but at least you could get your bearings and know that you are standing up straight. Thats my perspective of the difference between real IMC and under the hood. Anyway, the fact is that in my part of the world, an IMC day that is not also accompanied by 30kt+ winds, major wave formation, and very serious turbulence is extremely rare. If I want my instrument ticket, so I can travel, its most likely going to have to be earned exclusively under the hood. (Thank you for your answers telling me that this is even legal) Then, once that's done, and before I go venture into true IMC on my own, I'll go spend a week or two somewhere like Seattle (no offense) where I can count on getting an additional 5-6 hours with an instructor in the real stuff. I think that's a reasonable compromise. If anyone out there less "virginized" than myself disagrees, I'm still happy to listen. Andy LML Bookstore http://buildersbooks.com/lancair eCharts http://eCharts.cc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>