Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5b5) with ESMTP id 921321 for rob@logan.com; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 21:16:00 -0400 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.97]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 09:50:54 -0400 Received: from DWSIIS@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id k.7f.1b782785 (17526) for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 10:02:37 -0400 (EDT) From: DWSIIS@aol.com Message-ID: <7f.1b782785.28f5aefc@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 10:02:36 EDT Subject: Re: lancair.list V1 #192 To: lancair.list@olsusa.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> << Right wing dropped, left wing flew over the top. Full right rudder and full nose down elevator resulted in nose down (vertical). The airplane spun to the right -- in my best estimation, three turns per second. In my flying career, I have spun many smaller airplanes. I taught aerobatics in T-34's. This spin was tighter than any I've had. And I alternated rudder, aileron with no recognizable affect. Airspeed accelerated to approximately 230 IAS. >> Several observations : Having sold my Glasair and now flying an unlimited monoplane I spend a lot of time completely stalled and in spins.....,right,left,inverted,crossovers,etc. If your right wing drops you do not apply right rudder to recover, you apply left rudder. Right rudder will initiate the spin. Three turns a second would probably make you a helicopter and you would rise. If you are indicating 230 and are in a "tight spin" I would think the plane transitioned from a spin to a spiral and would require aelerons to recover. I flew an RV 4 that would do just that if I didn't keep the stick full back...interesting. I would suggest getting spin training in something docile like a Pitts as a T-34 spins so slow as to feel like slow motion. After Pitts is comfortable get in a monoplane (Extra) and have fun with flat spins and tumbling. The guy that checked me out in spins had me recover eyes clossed. Power off, either let go of stick or stick back, and press the heavy rudder. If you are looking, look at the direction the ground is spinning and push opposite rudder. Works both upright and inverted, easier than remembering which way you are spinning. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>