Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5b3) with ESMTP id 854399 for rob@logan.com; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:06:37 -0400 Received: from femail45.sdc1.sfba.home.com ([24.254.60.39]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:32:02 -0400 Received: from home.com ([65.5.7.124]) by femail45.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010822194229.XXFN3584.femail45.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com> for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:42:29 -0700 Message-ID: <3B840B92.F19B5E5B@home.com> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:44:18 -0700 From: Bob MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Subject: Re: LNC2 Fixed Pitch Propeller Survey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Gosh Jack, I wasn't making any claims at all. Certainly did not intend to tread on the "common cause of greater knowledge". All I have is piece of paper from Lycon that says the HP at 2750 rpm, 29 inches, using a Lycon exhaust, air inlet and test club, is 185.877 and when corrected to a 60 degree day is 196.107. The (new) parallel-valve cylinders were ported and flow balanced and Lycon 9.5:1 pistons installed. It has a Airflow Performance fuel injection system. The engine runs like a top, and whether it is 175HP or 195HP, I am very pleased with it. As for my data, here is what I said: > Data is from linear trend lines fitted to a large number of data points > taken on different days at different altitudes and temperatures. I made no attempt to determine the power being applied to the prop, rather am simply comparing the speed achieved with different props in the range of RPMs where I normally operate. What I did is put a bunch of raw data points (IAS, RPM, Altitude) into a spreadsheet, calculate TAS, and make a graph. Then I looked at the trend line (that's what Excel calls it, I would say its a least squares straight line fit) and read the TAS shown on the graph at 2700 rpm. I never said all 3 props max out at 2700, in fact they will all go faster, I don't know how much because I don't intentionally run the engine above 2700. I calculated TAS from a simple formula which uses ONLY IAS and altitude and is at best good to a few percent. This is not "lab quality" data, but I think it does average out the errors and makes a valid comparison between different propellers on a real Lancair, under real flight conditions. I hope others will contribute to this thread. Judging from the speed numbers, the Performance prop was a better match to my airplane. The Felix prop has more pull at low RPM, (I have to relly mash the brakes during runup) and it feels smoother. The Warnke 2 blade has too little ground clearance for the 235, but it climbed better than either of the other two. I decided to try the Felix prop because the price/delivery time was better. Bob Belshe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>