Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5b2) with ESMTP id 831037 for rob@logan.com; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 05:41:46 -0400 Received: from smtp1.gateway.net ([208.230.117.245]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 03:56:23 -0400 Received: from D (1Cust174.tnt1.coeur-dalene.id.da.uu.net [63.27.107.174]) by smtp1.gateway.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA27123 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 04:05:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000d01c10f60$91424140$ae6b1b3f@F.Schaefer> Reply-To: "dfs" Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com From: "dfs" To: "Lancair list" Subject: LNC2 flap speeds Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 01:06:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> For reference, I have an early L235 with the upper-surface hinged flaps. When Mike DeHate came to check me out when it was time to fly, he was adamant that the flaps be in reflex any time my IAS was 160 MPH and above. Don't remember reading this anywhere but if Mike said do it, that's good enough for me. In doing some research on the NLF series airfoils used on the LNC2's, it turns out that they have quite a high pitching moment (tendency to twist leading edge down) relative to more common airfoils. As I understand it, the twisting stresses on the wing structure, due to this function, increase with airspeed so there is some structural speed limit unless you do something to alleviate the twisting forces. Reflexing the flaps does just this - at least up to red-line. Further, the high pitching moment forces you to use a lot of up elevator to counter it creating a very high trim drag situation, which in turn, holds your speed down. You should see the effects of this at the time you run the flaps up to the reflex (cruise) position - if your airplane is like mine, I have to put in a lot of down trim and the plane accelerates like it was going down hill! On deceleration for landing, I always leave the reflex in until I've slowed below the 160 MPH mark, per Mike. As an added bit of info, I've practiced landing while in reflex just in case the flap system fails during cruise. If you haven't done this, you should make sure you can handle the situation because there's no way to move the flaps should you lose the flap motor or your electrics. You will land sorta long and fast so stay away from short runways if such a failure develops. Incidentally, from experience, let me warn you that if you're flying formation with the other airplane in trail, you'd best alert your buddy that you're going out of reflex because it's like throwing out an anchor and he will certainly run up on you in a heart beat! Cheers, Dan Schaefer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>