Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5b1) with ESMTP id 813188 for rob@logan.com; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 22:25:45 -0400 Received: from sam.the-i.net ([206.136.176.251]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71175U5500L550S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 13:35:16 -0400 Received: from pavilion (unverified [209.33.169.37]) by sam.the-i.net (Vircom SMTPRS 4.4.184) with SMTP id for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 12:39:15 -0500 Message-ID: <001d01c10d55$990afd20$25a921d1@pavilion> From: "J. N. Cameron" To: "Lancair List" Subject: ES HStab incidence; weight & balance Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 12:43:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> My first ES had a completed C.G. that was right at the forward design limit; in fact, dead empty with no pilot, it was about 0.5" ahead of the forward limit. The nose-heaviness was not so much an issue in trimming for approach -- I found I could do that OK with the standard size elevator trim tab -- but in getting the nose to settle gently onto the runway after touchdown. I tried a lot of different approach combinations, flaps, speed, throttle settings, etc., but I always got a more solid plunk of the nosewheel than I would have liked. Jim Scales told me a while back that he likes to land his ES with the elevator trim run full up, even if he has to hold forward pressure on the stick. He says it makes for a gentler nosewheel touchdown. Haven't tried it, myself. The recommendation to mount the HStab with a -0.5 degree incidence came from Carsten, maybe a couple of years ago, so perhaps he has since revised his opinion. Somewhere between 0 and -0.5 is probably right, but so long as the weight and balance are pretty far forward, I'm not sure it'll make a lot of difference. One thing I'm doing different on ES #2 is to use an MT prop, which will save about 20 pounds 'way out front where it matters. I'll let you know what difference that makes in a couple of months, if all goes well. Jim Cameron N143ES reserved >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>