Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.7) with ESMTP id 798993 for rob@logan.com; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:42:18 -0400 Received: from wind.imbris.com ([216.18.130.7]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71175U5500L550S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:40:34 -0400 Received: from regandesigns.com (cda131-205.imbris.com [216.18.131.205]) by wind.imbris.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f5DHmao16207 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:48:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B278B3F.7CDCBE93@regandesigns.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:48:15 -0500 From: Brent Regan MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lancair List Subject: RE: Blue Mountain Avionics -- the engineers reply Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Ouch! At the risk of starting another playground range war I would like to clarify some of my reasoning and correct some items regarding Blue Mountain Avionics (BMA). Regan Designs (www.regandesigns.com) is a design and consulting firm. Sierra Flight Systems LLC (SFS) is a client of Regan Designs Inc. Some of our other clients include Rockwell Collins, Northstar Technologies, Jeppesen, Qualtair, Honeywell, and Boeing. Since '94 we have designed over a dozen computer and display systems for use in private, commercial and military aircraft. Five of these designs are available as products. All were tested under DO160D. Three are either FAA certified or have passed the hardware testing required for certification. For Sierra Flight Systems we designed the overall hardware architecture and designed the hardware, electronics and low level software for the IDU (the processor, display and IO). Sierra Flight Systems integrates the IDUs with the AHRS, GPS and application software. Regan Designs does not sell the SFS hardware. Regan Designs does not receive a commission on SFS sales. The "pursuit" of certification says nothing about the quality of the hardware and software. IMHO, based on my experiences with the certification process and the (limited) representations available at the Blue Mountain web site, the Blue Mountain system is uncertifiable in it's present incarnation and will require significant modification before the FAA will ever give it the nod. I can say this because we have been there and done that. I do not sell SFS hardware. I do not "dislike" you or your system. I do try to be objective. The 5X figure is an exaggeration. In order to even start comparing the BMA system to the SFS EFIS 2000 you have to configure them similarly. For that you need TWO complete BMA systems less vacuum gyros ($1,200 each) and add a solid state AHRS. You have now spent about $25,000 (more than half the cost of an EFIS 2000) and you still don't have 3D navigation (the real reason you want a glass system in the first place) or Wx interface, or TCAD interface, or UPS interface or autopilot interface or one of the dozen additional interfaces the EFIS already has. You are also missing several potentially life saving features like terrain avoidance, dynamic dead stick landing range (corrected for wind, turns and terrain), G-meter and "highway in the sky" enroute and approach navigation among others. You will also have to find room on the panel for two 10.4 inch displays (good luck) and give up night flying because the displays won't dim down far enough. Those two 1500 nit (a nit is a candela per square meter and is a measure of light intensity) displays turn into spot lights after sunset. For displays that large you need to dim them to less than 0.5 nit to preserve night vision (Boeing specification). We designed a proprietary backlight system for SFS to accomplish this. I haven't seen it because there are only three flying and the website is a little short on specifications. I would not characterize my critical observations as an attack but I can understand how you may feel that way. As to "vehement" those that know me will tell you that this isn't even close to vehement. Again, IMHO the majority of vendors out there offering glass have missed the mark. Most glass simply displays analog gauges in a digital format. Big deal. You gain nothing. SFS was the first to step back from the problem and ask "What information does the pilot need to know to fly the airplane and live to tell about it?" and then implement a system that displays that information in a clear and intuitive manner. Others are starting to copy the SFS paradigm, notable among them is BFG. Like "The Matrix", you cannot be told what the SFS EFIS 2000 is. You have to see it for yourself to fully understand and appreciate it. If you are considering glass for your airplane it is IMPERATIVE that you fly before you buy. The marketplace is full of newcomers AND the technology is changing rapidly. Under no circumstances should you make a major avionics purchase based on web sites, marketing BS and arm waving (especially from an vehemently attacking, hateful BS artist like myself ;) See it, play with it and fly it or live to regret your decision. I regret if Greg finds my comments personally offensive. That was not my intent. Be assured, and other members of the list can testify, that I do not discriminate......most find me offensive at times ;) If, however, you make a claim that you have a product that is competitive on function and reliability at a minor fraction the price then you had better be prepared with some well founded answers to serious questions. 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