Return-Path: Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.202.55] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b8) with ESMTP id 322881 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:24:59 -0400 Received-SPF: error receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.202.55; envelope-from=kenpowell@comcast.net Received: from 204.127.205.143 ([204.127.205.143]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2004071521242801100t1rgfe>; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:24:28 +0000 Received: from [68.51.44.162] by 204.127.205.143; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:24:27 +0000 From: kenpowell@comcast.net To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: M/T Props Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:24:27 +0000 Message-Id: <071520042124.15451.40F6F60A000B602F00003C5B220076370404040A99019F020A05@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Jun 24 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: a2VucG93ZWxsQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_15451_1089926667_0" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_15451_1089926667_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dave, There has been a comparison of props in RVator within the past year. I don't remember the results but surely someone here has the last few issues and can look this up for us. If not, send me a reminder at the end of August and I'll look it up when I get back from Glasgow, Scotland (on business, not pleasure). The info is at my office and I'm on vacation tommorrow and next week, then on Sunday off to Glasgow for a month. Ken Powell -------------- Original message -------------- > I was really thinking about getting an MT as well, until some of the guys on > the ACRE list told me about how many people are finding that the MT is > significantly slower than a FP alum prop. > > Seems like a whole bunch of money to spend on something that doesn't help a > lot. > > Dave Leonard > > > > > > > > > > From: Mark Steitle > > > Date: 2004/07/14 Wed PM 01:25:58 GMT > > > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Jim Ayers - M/T Props > > > > > > At 01:03 PM 7/14/2004 +0000, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Mark Steitle > > > > > Date: 2004/07/14 Wed PM 12:26:55 GMT > > > > > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > > > > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Jim Ayers - M/T Props > > > > > > > > > > At 07:16 PM 7/13/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > >Mark Steitle wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>Hey Guys, > > > > > >>A little while back a message was posted giving Jim Ayers > > (Less Drag > > > > > >>Products, Inc.) as a good source for M/T props. I have > > contacted Jim > > > > and > > > > > >>he has given a pretty good price (that's relative) on a > > 3-blade M/T > > > > > >>prop. My question is this, has anyone on this list dealt with Mr. > > > > > >>Ayers? If so, was everything handled per agreement? I > > have no problem > > > > > >>sending Tracy a check for a few thousand dollars, but I > > don't know this > > > > > >>gentleman, and though it would be prudent to ask around first. > > > > > >> > > > > > >>Thanks, > > > > > >>Mark S. > > > > > >>msteitle@mail.utexas.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi Mark, > > > > > > > > > > > >I can't offer an experience-based opinion on his honesty, > > but I have met > > > > > >him & he seems to be a nice enough guy. His current claim > > to fame on the > > > > > >RV list is an insult swapping match with JT Helms, the > > insurance agent > > > > > >that runs the 'Vanguard' RV insurance program. (Rooted in some > > > > > >misunderstanding of insurance by Jim & some insulting & tactless > > > > > >'corrections' from JT.) > > > > > > > > > > > >Why not just place the order in writing, pay him by major > > credit card & > > > > > >send it through the US Mail? Most credit card companies > > can & will be a > > > > > >major help if merchants fail to deliver, and Postal > > Inspectors take a > > > > very > > > > > >dim & aggressive view of mail fraud. > > > > > > > > > > > >Charlie > > > > > Charlie, > > > > > Good suggestions. I emailed the MT factory to verify his dealership > > > > > authorization and got a reply this morning. He is highly > > recommended by > > > > > them. Thanks for your input. > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > >For the $ and the construction technique (all cf), try > > Whirlwind props. I > > > >know a few experimental acrobatic pilots and they love > > them-light, cs if > > > >you want, and great. They take lots of abuse. > > > >Marc Wiese > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > > > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > Marc, > > > I went to the Whirlwind website and read about their different > > models of > > > props. I didn't see where they make an electric CS model. So, > > I sent them > > > an email and will let the group know what they say. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Mark S. > > No electric cs from Whirlwind. You are going cs? Try the Marcotte > > gearbox or Francois' new one and use a standard cs hub with the > > Whirlwind graphite blades. It's only money. > > Marc > > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_15451_1089926667_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Dave,

There has been a comparison of props in RVator within the past year.  I don't remember the results but surely someone here has the last few issues and can look this up for us.  If not, send me a reminder at the end of August and I'll look it up when I get back from Glasgow, Scotland (on business, not pleasure).  The info is at my office and I'm on vacation tommorrow and next week, then on Sunday off to Glasgow for a month.

Ken Powell

-------------- Original message --------------

> I was really thinking about getting an MT as well, until some of the guys on
> the ACRE list told me about how many people are finding that the MT is
> significantly slower than a FP alum prop.
>
> Seems like a whole bunch of money to spend on something that doesn't help a
> lot.
>
> Dave Leonard
>
>
> >
> > >
> > > From: Mark Steitle
> > > Date: 2004/07/14 Wed PM 01:25:58 GMT
> > > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft"
> > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Jim Ayers - M/T Props
> > >
> > > At 01:03 PM 7/14/2004 +0000, you wrote:
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Mark Steitle
> > > > > Date: 2004/07/14 Wed PM 12:26:55 GMT
> > > > > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft"
> > > > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Jim Ayers - M/T Props
> > > > >
> > > > > At 07:16 PM 7/13/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > > >Mark Steitle wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>Hey Guys,
> > > > > >>A little while back a message was posted giving Jim Ayers
> > (Less Drag
> > > > > >>Products, Inc.) as a good source for M/T props. I have
> > contacted Jim
> > > > and
> > > > > >>he has given a pretty good price (that's relative) on a
> > 3-blade M/T
> > > > > >>prop. My question is this, has anyone on this list dealt with Mr.
> > > > > >>Ayers? If so, was everything handled per agreement? I
> > have no problem
> > > > > >>sending Tracy a check for a few thousand dollars, but I
> > don't know this
> > > > > >>gentleman, and though it would be prudent to ask around first.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Thanks,
> > > > > >>Mark S.
> > > > > >>msteitle@mail.utexas.edu
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Hi Mark,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I can't offer an experience-based opinion on his honesty,
> > but I have met
> > > > > >him & he seems to be a nice enough guy. His current claim
> > to fame on the
> > > > > >RV list is an insult swapping match with JT Helms, the
> > insurance agent
> > > > > >that runs the 'Vanguard' RV insurance program. (Rooted in some
> > > > > >misunderstanding of insurance by Jim & some insulting & tactless
> > > > > >'corrections' from JT.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Why not just place the order in writing, pay him by major
> > credit card &
> > > > > >send it through the US Mail? Most credit card companies
> > can & will be a
> > > > > >major help if merchants fail to deliver, and Postal
> > Inspectors take a
> > > > very
> > > > > >dim & aggressive view of mail fraud.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Charlie
> > > > > Charlie,
> > > > > Good suggestions. I emailed the MT factory to verify his dealership
> > > > > authorization and got a reply this morning. He is highly
> > recommended by
> > > > > them. Thanks for your input.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark
> > > >For the $ and the construction technique (all cf), try
> > Whirlwind props. I
> > > >know a few experimental acrobatic pilots and they love
> > them-light, cs if
> > > >you want, and great. They take lots of abuse.
> > > >Marc Wiese
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/
> > > > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html
> > > Marc,
> > > I went to the Whirlwind website and read about their different
> > models of
> > > props. I didn't see where they make an electric CS model. So,
> > I sent them
> > > an email and will let the group know what they say.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mark S.
> > No electric cs from Whirlwind. You are going cs? Try the Marcotte
> > gearbox or Francois' new one and use a standard cs hub with the
> > Whirlwind graphite blades. It's only money.
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/
> > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html
>
>
> >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/
> >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html
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