Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #9168
From: Tracy Crook <lors01@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel Delivery - Vapor Lock
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 15:47:24 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
 
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From: Al Gietzen
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 1:46 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel Delivery - Vapor Lock

Subject: [FlyRotary] Fuel Delivery - Vapor Lock

 


First, it appears that at least one of the incidents resulted from the fuel pumps/gas collator/lines getting hot enough to cause vapor lock at the inlet of the pump(s).  The a/c was running mogas at the time of the engine stoppage.  One solution appears to be to shield and cool the pumps and related plumbing with fresh air. 

Once this happened, it led to the second shortcoming (I have experienced this with my 20B installation during ground runs).  Once the system had vapor downstream of the pump(s), the efi pump couldn't force it past the pressure regulator.  This can be the result of either vapor lock or running a tank dry.  Their recommendation here is to install a bleed orifice (approx. .020") around the pressure regulator. 

Now, the Subie guys are contemplating a re-design of their fuel systems.  I'm wondering now if I should make any changes to my fuel system (2 wing tanks, 6-port Andair valve, dual EFI pumps mounted on f/w)?  Comments would be welcome, especially from those that have been flying for a while.

Mark S.

Clearly this is an important issue and warrants critical review in anyone’s plane.  It seemed to me there are some basic considerations; somewhat dictated by the airplane design.  I haven’t been flying yet but my thoughts on designing the system incorporate these;

  1. Minimize the potential for pressure drop upstream of the pump.  If you are pumping from a sump tank, don’t pump off the bottom, and have a sump drain there to take care of any water, and have a relatively coarse screen at the exit from the main tank to take out anything that you don’t want going through the pump.  Skip the gascolator upstream. Put your 10-30 micron filter downstream from the pump.
  2. Have the pump at a low point; i.e., in a position of always having positive pressure, maybe a foot or two of head if possible, and where any air or vapor bubble will migrate back toward the tank when the flow is stopped.  If there is fuel at the inlet or in the pump there is no problem having it force any air or vapor downstream through the pressure regulator.  Don’t expect the pump to ever have to “suck” the fuel uphill.
  3. Have the pumps and filter in a relatively cool place.  I don’t particularly like having fuel in the cabin, but at the bottom of the firewall is a “cool” place, and some airflow over them couldn’t hurt.

 

Hopefully this will keep me from having any problems.  We’ll see.

 

Al

 Al always comes up with solid & sensible advice and I would second most everything he said here.   I don't have Al's aversion to fuel plumbing in the cockpit however.  I like it there because I know it's "cool" and Laura's nose will tell me in an instant if it has the tiniest of leaks.   "Cool" at the bottom of the firewall depends on the airplane.  That is the hottest spot under the cowl on mine.  

 

Tracy

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