Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #6653
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: C mounting on a B plate?? Renesis & RD-1C drive testing
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 08:28:37 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sounds great thus far, Tracy
 
    Imagine having so much thrust that you can't hold the aircraft still for maximum static, must be tough {:>).  If you initial observations hold regarding fuel consumption and performance, then I predict the 2.85 will soon become the standard.  If the fuel burn/performance is a wash then only engine wear from higher rpm might be a factor, but since the rotary seems to only have no/ minimum wear in any case, that probably will not be a significant factor.
 
  So how much are you given for 2.17:1 trade ins?  Seriously, will the B model mounting plate accommodate the C model gear box housing (looks like you mount it the same way).  I presume it would not be so simple as swapping out the internals as I am certain the internal mounting/housing is different in the two.   Third, in case you consider getting rid of that old performance prop, put me on top of your list.
 
Ed
 
Ed Anderson
RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
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Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 9:12 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Data? Was : Renesis & RD-1C drive testing

Hi Ed,
Wish I had more carefully documented fuel burn vs airspeed on the -B drive & old prop.  But from the few well documented points that I have, it looks about the same at 6.0 GPH (sea level) IAS, 143 - 148 depending on OAT, humidity, etc (its amazing how much conditions affect things).  This is the only point I've had a chance to compare so far.  I have not built the prop blade cuffs that I feel will be necessary to get best performance from this combination.  Clark at Performance Props was very honest about the difficulty in getting the proper pitch at the blade root (out to ~ 3" past the 13" dia. spinner) with pitch this high.  This being the case, I'm very happy with the results so far. 
 
Other conclusions are that anything less than 74" L prop is a waste on the -C drive.  More would be better but that's as long as the -4 prop clearance would allow. 
 
I can't measure static rpm (plane wants to skid on grass and/or nose over) but climb RPM is at 6200 at 120 mph (up from about 5200 with -B drive) and VSI is pegged (hard!).  Only did very brief test of WOT in level flight and engine hit 7050 rpm.  IAS was still climbing at 215 mph.  Oil cooling has suffered due to stalled air around prop hub and reversed spiral of airflow due to RH prop.  Erased several years of tweaking inlet shapes.
 
Most unexpected finding so far is the radically improved glide at idle setting.  Have no clue why.  Would have expected worse instead of better.
 
Tracy
 
 
Hi Tracy,
 
    Experimentation can sure get exciting quickly, that's for sure.  So here we have the first successful cross-runway take off at Shady Bend, congratulations!
 
 I am interested in your static rpm with the 13B engine, big prop and 2.85 drive, so I can calculate an approximation of your HP on take off - might be interesting to see how it stacks up against the old set up.  Later on of course interested in your fuel burn at same indicated airspeeds and altitudes for a comparison with your old set up.
 
Best Regards
 
Ed
  
Ed Anderson
RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
 
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