X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=PbaBeRpd c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=Mx1YKMkecZsP4WK3yKHMow==:117 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=Fee85h93u3AA:10 a=y4yBn9ojGxQA:10 a=8IjSFGYmQxEA:10 a=0g3ijE2LAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=fszi3cHpjiGa8pbpy00A:9 a=iBbBRirFzESoGTaa:21 a=8PxQUcGvXyVHz4ik:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=6_I4zQ6GbooA:10 a=eb8Aex2DF3wkx94DKrcA:9 a=Am20kiWkSrGgSar2:21 a=0Qdy9th8VgG1dU_Q:21 a=vTfm-fAqnk--iJu6:21 a=U5wuEONFfmvzvSfIpUzO:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 From: "lehanover lehanover@aol.com" Received: from sonic303-3.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com ([74.6.131.42] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 617428 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 07 Aug 2020 21:41:35 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.6.131.42; envelope-from=lehanover@aol.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aol.com; s=a2048; t=1596850879; bh=rfgg1mfkzKweT8/VdpM5ALG5hfuNDbTZlR56e9uZaIc=; h=Date:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=eT0Dz2wDJvLUoHSCQl/GorNO82RfTDUzlIGeDK3MAViEUZ0JntvhUd18GZryuhKmeUN+2BRdhygpSYsDnBfJJBspgDytEraSeXQSHjyiy31jGUYxod7PEomAdQhjCKNklXVR0j8XB6Y2yi6sFMaq4qh0a56cNCdDPmVQvEhWT2GYc05XBn2DsdaVvB4JqhLATXaHg1BLAEOzlUyWU1GTvh/dZTv+S8duBbtSwZotSgOhtZkAASYWX3GYrEY/P34I6Jd6RKJoztDOmQYO1fGDehRrG4OnXgwPhBj47sP+W5jraZtJfc3MjzUnGW7Kh9dLiqnkztHFQdPM6EVe6Z6Klw== X-YMail-OSG: 30fD5jsVM1nwkC_3dNL2Sp8b3ww80ZZIwuvcBmeht.wzgNzmGy7mC4VlAAJQVdK iY9BWQHdLu_BXz_Dl7WSCTuVcgvvhEa77xz7MbpUUmH.nUTMnQm4.G6hu4WwuYaqTkE2h63R22zJ 4hf_SyEm0oWW_YDI2YS9NADHJ2SEKls7vKUCEKiAdM2cDqyOLfBA_VGFewo0nM9Ae0Lv.WzIu8nV yHAumxa9QIo6wSexfbib063iJlgvLIUNQ8Vbe36guvKnYrqyyK8QgyQjQvoof04I1cb0wc64mF.e yTZ5qqPsGn9XnqVC320.TISfNrp1E.Gee2xey32T58izFeCHtdIjUK7ARIY_OaC0yP9rZutl4FxN _un2cXC0T2CziM1C_6n5Iaw2nfyYkoeLcI0WWAJS0sy.ROYT.XMp19DPhUQsAbYUeSAX.vltmXxe GRleNNvszXfC9AFrGO3Xy0Q8aOB_4.Xf1khLR6vaBDkxx8AiGJse.iWSsDHn9k_flFKol_1pfH7. yYgsnZqsbcGuBzrmxPMtl5leT4CBXF0pISGZ2c1JC1r_gnuE3BIwZceOP.Lp3YwIrUc3mALeN9iu CE4eqTkylZNSD7_NNyxC3vzzFLNSFP56M31.0O3eDgBDqR10Q9wXR8TyLp4wMz1xgjjcsQAn4G4j x9UaSLOAfEAh9grFnn2uSTz6zgamqKKFseCbUY8Vem.ksnw2OxDw09AKEiywg7pbfOBPY4RKOPWo fqAUsboT6Hx8IUXJoD.iHWXrzd0YJSrmf7tqnmpv9XFkFJnePhn4TJSI_1PJDxMYCkYMVBvE4hFU S6ucl6CNaZ0gOSj2uAEZTz4iGJ676tm0hxsBjO5tU6S9FkZFU2WquN2O2O7VYeRR0WJg7_NnMXMc JFvSYBA7r.nolzLvPMVmh_H4jf5UnjarmhxCIOMQcHnnRfyhIjFfMns_QmLIrAzKPKP2FCpAiJ7. 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The SAE page says about 80 US= D each.=C2=A0 You or we.. need to check with a dyno operator for hard copie= s or a copied disc. Or the old spec if a new one was issued.=C2=A0 LEH http://www.bigdynodatabase.com/DynoCF.php Thanks Lynn. Steve > On 8 Aug 2020, at 9:11 am, lehanover lehanover@aol.com wrote:> > Not your fault.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I am old and easily conf= used.......> > After each dyno pass, you compare each number recovered near= or in the inlet tract wherever your fresh air supply is recovered. So as t= o establish the "Weather" or air conditions the engine is "seeing"> > These= are large printed (size C formats) years back. It is now probably a spread= sheet for very quick calculations. For example you are looking for some he= lp at the bottom end to help get out of corners a bit better. You change id= le jets closer to best power at 7,500 RPM then add a bit of accelerator pum= p. I made movies of the gauges for review. In two days of testing (for this= one problem) we have many different inlet air temps. Many barometric press= ures and many humidity readings. So each pass produces a different raw HP> = reading. You look on the SAE chart for the number you just recovered and fo= llow the column to the SAE correction number temp. or pressure or humidity = and you fill in your home made form with the "NEW" SAE multiplier.=C2=A0 Si= nce all of the charts start at sea level each SAE multiplier will reduce th= e raw HP number. But, all of the passes are now in the same format as all o= f the variables are removed. I could get 2 or 3 good readings using the mov= ies. The throttle is always wide open and the test RPM is controlled with a= water brake load cell.> > In most cases your great idea will cost you HP. = but every so often Jackpot....4 corrected HP.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Modern dynos hav= e this stuff built into their computers so the numbers you see are already = corrected to sea level. In olden times they were not. Lynn E. Hanover=C2=A0= =20 > > ------=_Part_1214323_1594911895.1596850877903 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Here is one of the SAE specs, you need three. The SAE page says about 80 USD each.  You or we.. need to check with a dyno operator for hard copies or a copied disc. Or the old spec if a new one was issued.  LEH

http://www.bigdynodatabase.com/DynoCF.php


Thanks Lynn.

Steve

> On 8 Aug 2020, at 9:11 am, lehanover lehanover@aol.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
>
> Not your fault.    I am old and easily confused.......
>
> After each dyno pass, you compare each number recovered near or in the inlet tract wherever your fresh air supply is recovered. So as to establish the "Weather" or air conditions the engine is "seeing"
>
> These are large printed (size C formats) years back. It is now probably a spread sheet for very quick calculations. For example you are looking for some help at the bottom end to help get out of corners a bit better. You change idle jets closer to best power at 7,500 RPM then add a bit of accelerator pump. I made movies of the gauges for review. In two days of testing (for this one problem) we have many different inlet air temps. Many barometric pressures and many humidity readings. So each pass produces a different raw HP
> reading. You look on the SAE chart for the number you just recovered and follow the column to the SAE correction number temp. or pressure or humidity and you fill in your home made form with the "NEW" SAE multiplier.  Since all of the charts start at sea level each SAE multiplier will reduce the raw HP number. But, all of the passes are now in the same format as all of the variables are removed. I could get 2 or 3 good readings using the movies. The throttle is always wide open and the test RPM is controlled with a water brake load cell.
>
> In most cases your great idea will cost you HP. but every so often Jackpot....4 corrected HP.    Modern dynos have this stuff built into their computers so the numbers you see are already corrected to sea level. In olden times they were not. Lynn E. Hanover 
>
>
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