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[220.235.83.233]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 13sm10261116pfp.3.2020.08.06.16.15.03 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 06 Aug 2020 16:15:04 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Dyno Sheet Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 07:15:01 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <1D558740-4D7B-4386-842F-A8AA4941C389@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Hi Guys Thanks for all the feedback. I think I didn=E2=80=99t explain my objective clearly enough. Some questions: 1. Given I have variable pitch, what combination of MAP and RPM should I = climb or cruise at? With fixed pitch I dont suppose you think in these = terms. So should I be Climbings at WOT & 7000rpm OR WOT & 6300rpm Best Power = Mixture. I think Lynn best understood my intention of trying to use the flight as = a dyne - I didn=E2=80=99t realise the complexity of the relationship of = mixture and timing at various settings, thanks Lynn. I thought by keeping WOT and mixture constant I might ascertain a = maximum efficiency combination for MAP/RPM. I=E2=80=99d like a combination for max power. I=E2=80=99m thinking = identified by higher fuel burn and IAS for the climb, and=20 a max efficiency/ecconomy combination for cruise identified by best = miles per gallon. I thought our Renesis with our modified OEM (shortened) manifold but no = variable intake valves etc. would have a distinctive peak at = ~6400-6600rpm. 2. I=E2=80=99m finding tuning the EC2 (objective being EC provides = constant mixture across the flight envelope) is dependant on the = combination I choose to tune it at.=20 Eg. Tune EC2 MCT for one MAP/RPM combination, say a cruise of 18=E2=80=9D = AND 5000 rpm, then the EC will not be able to provide a constant mixture = if I then choose 18=E2=80=9D at 6000rpm. My EC2 has Tracy=E2=80=99s 8 table setup but fueling requirements given = the extra permutations provided by the variable pitch prop (climbing = that hill - which gear should I use - 3rd 4th or 5th??)=20 appears to stretch its inherent capabilities. So I want a plan for what = MAP/RPM I will use and then adjust/tune the EC MCT for that combination. Thanks again guys. Steve Izett =20 all is nice if you fly that combination. If I then choose ab > On 7 Aug 2020, at 6:16 am, lehanover lehanover@aol.com = wrote: >=20 > Your thinking is correct. Control full throttle RPM with load. Then = experiment always at that particular RPM until you have whatever data = point you were after. 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