X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=PbaBeRpd c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=yddmuxop3eaF2vhkAzXwyw==:117 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=ad1WmcueCrwA:10 a=y4yBn9ojGxQA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=YIhCDrhPDu534nMVgtoA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=MzWmKsXxlKT-V-istU4A:9 a=pPn0V7WRAIK69iFy:21 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "William Jepson wrjjrs@gmail.com" Received: from mail-lj1-f181.google.com ([209.85.208.181] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 611173 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 06 Aug 2020 12:17:37 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.208.181; envelope-from=wrjjrs@gmail.com Received: by mail-lj1-f181.google.com with SMTP id i10so17672951ljn.2 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2020 09:17:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Vv9Jv2ftAqgxKP2IkAKu2HMyngYZb8o6s7/DLomZmsI=; b=pUj46oyP3v7IiySEqfkiTWtIOQAZwv64qaFYB0VxPKI0Aks0xFbCo+ILvx7qJfS9VM BDy8eMSX+5UJcj6tY5XM00YHkVouHP7nKe6spYltD6GYrwfY682Fjtahme2mIt8lfMtO QggPasKjMuTDBSZy+XKeGn0CJMvjHJyT7i+7UPfrQCJG5Ki13D0qpPZZKhMcuSazL037 EEEx8JWPa9Szu8r3RI+924t2Vsl9lOvpUH3WA2UmCt0tGVGGmibQBn/HUFwTYnukEP28 jen0wHoOXZ+sBZ8YdddSWM8KSaE6Re7WZSbgb3Tmgd34ZPSun2q8BpjOwdThUeR1P7tT iONg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Vv9Jv2ftAqgxKP2IkAKu2HMyngYZb8o6s7/DLomZmsI=; b=kOdzag1esPyY4tQT8MO4DDsdJ8A1uQTtV5KmFhtBJhB9cOAlheAjs3ycXNjvI/05Ug 7mQTBMpLzPfsLBNWc9it4AqGr4wnAaGmx5ixjr/mJME1KWF+M7gxCBuiFN6sNOeqkOZB 6PweU/tHMuOM/eOsM/hTGQ/6lgoDduS8Emxd7+vM3Wfx3lRCGehorhRyncsEkboQeRZK QW6VjhckcCW8agP2U5sADJgpvqTAUBSq26gcJYq5ewDuQgpj0UTQOzJpkBGCEuMIvSFc dnrVeSSyvTwblS08BPQJUNpj2t5C0oAdfCSCGdL1VI0KP6gyeLg4dVjwVWt0sOrME4Au /THw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531A3kXIFDvs3AbgfZ1kk8T2htrGIFkS0R2uxtxRJMUvaj/YOwSh jXLSg0bI/G2sSwTl+f6TNiZY8t/K/PeKQlZpbk41GQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxActuSboFE8eIA0PFKMO/+AspgvHcjs6hCTRfIV9S9ekbBgSMqDK43Yk7QcI8k5E6tP6y4x/J/SkGj/LE+Ecs= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:351a:: with SMTP id z26mr4230420ljz.3.1596730639656; Thu, 06 Aug 2020 09:17:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 09:17:08 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Testing best rpm power setting To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009428ee05ac37d25a" --0000000000009428ee05ac37d25a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve, On the dyno you will know better, but on the 4 port (stock) you should see peak power at less than 7k. On the small port version of Powersport=E2=80= =99s p-port with a similar intake length they were seeing best power at about 6,500. They may have been slightly over-proped. I would expect a similar max power with standard side ports. Or possibly even lower rpm. Bill On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 7:59 AM Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > Hi guys > > I=E2=80=99m wanting to inflight test for the best RPM for peak power of o= ur 4 port > Renesis with variable pitch prop (No constant speed control at present). > On Takeoff at Full Fine we hit 6900 after a few seconds and then rpm > builds to 7400 by 500 feet and 110 KIAS > I=E2=80=99m wondering if we are well past the peak torque and would be be= tter off > at a lower rpm. > > Am I right in thinking the following would use the aircraft as a Dyno to > establish rpm for best power? > > 1. Set up level flight (auto pilot) > 2. Maintain WOT and constant mixture (best power - say 0.9 Lambda - 13.2 > AFR) via Wideband O2 > 3. Vary RPM in 200rpm increments for 2 minutes each setting between 5600 > and 7200 by adjusting prop pitch > 4. Note Fuel Flow and IAS (Logged on Dynon Skyview) > > I=E2=80=99m thinking this would give me an indication of best RPM for hig= hest > power. > Our Inlet is just under 19=E2=80=9D long, measured from the side face of = the > engine. > So I=E2=80=99m thinking peak torque may be around 6400 rpm. > > Your insight would be appreciated. > Thanks > > Steve Izett > Renesis 4 port RD1C (2.85:1) Inflight Adjustable Prop > > > > > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > --0000000000009428ee05ac37d25a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Steve,
On the dyno you = will know better, but on the 4 port (stock) you should see peak power at le= ss than 7k. On the small port version of Powersport=E2=80=99s p-port with a= similar intake length they were seeing best power at about 6,500. They may= have been slightly over-proped. I would expect a similar max power with st= andard side ports. Or possibly even lower rpm.
Bill= =C2=A0

On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 7:59 AM Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
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Hi guys

I=E2=80=99m wanting to inflight test for the best RPM for peak power of our= 4 port Renesis with variable pitch prop (No constant speed control at pres= ent).
On Takeoff at Full Fine we hit 6900 after a few seconds and then rpm builds= to 7400 by 500 feet and 110 KIAS
I=E2=80=99m wondering if we are well past the peak torque and would be bett= er off at a lower rpm.

Am I right in thinking the following would use the aircraft as a Dyno to es= tablish rpm for best power?

1. Set up level flight (auto pilot)
2. Maintain WOT and constant mixture (best power - say 0.9 Lambda - 13.2 AF= R) via Wideband O2
3. Vary RPM in 200rpm increments for 2 minutes each setting between 5600 an= d 7200 by adjusting prop pitch
4. Note Fuel Flow and IAS (Logged on Dynon Skyview)

I=E2=80=99m thinking this would give me an indication of best RPM for highe= st power.
Our Inlet is just under 19=E2=80=9D long, measured from the side face of th= e engine.
So I=E2=80=99m thinking peak torque may be around=C2=A0 6400 rpm.

Your insight would be appreciated.
Thanks

Steve Izett
Renesis 4 port RD1C (2.85:1) Inflight Adjustable Prop






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