X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=PbaBeRpd c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=yte/Q11nAkcy3bblwNAYnw==:117 a=5ZdN53DUBXSlI79CusMrgQ==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=A-0mRrAPPO4A:10 a=y4yBn9ojGxQA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=_6GpL_ENAAAA:8 a=l6Om5A-QsPPcc0t9zLgA:9 a=djIQxoxNdZRj8TiK:21 a=MIhvRHkJdwD4UXwW:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 From: "Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com" Received: from mail-qk1-f182.google.com ([209.85.222.182] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 598198 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 02 Aug 2020 20:22:35 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.222.182; envelope-from=ceengland7@gmail.com Received: by mail-qk1-f182.google.com with SMTP id b14so32097871qkn.4 for ; Sun, 02 Aug 2020 17:22:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=0G0FWI4TzZzJAzqwacyZnNvAapMeeiSUseDnkC1VxmU=; b=ulX55Fqh++ieD06clmlc9Ndo4ni+SrFGpd6b6p7aZdPMuWqMD/1xkgZNRtug+/QSa9 K5WXRCkosmDKhiUgPg3rOCbPJ1kT5AoD5tf44Zb+ytW6j0FZ8vGOlUsLNuYA18N1EaS9 pMGe+NRqnXQam5m/pOphBMTf09W+Km1g9H0HVU3ccalbNY88tn/jfR2Mfyg2QnbCfjwp j7a2RiZrh9FQlGUR+kzfrz/JjCEP/Whq9IIWPlNL5kRIuc2u8CmHAdAlquFpO2/B6TZw PM+l3hyD3dWHTee9Sat26YjzDtwzzX14oKwBpwyjTx8RoZFVU+hVpf8IuZYYqtmuj61l 4wUg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=0G0FWI4TzZzJAzqwacyZnNvAapMeeiSUseDnkC1VxmU=; b=pfxX2gkjwMEWkHF48Lc9fmqjVqxqjLPLxjDiBYNmjS0SuCdSswT1GX99OwZ/xCjpaV NR42HEUwb/vj78uD//SWBUiBMUgj+DkJ0huxP4iSlXJkLOtsFGIOE/EDzimkox9qCKC3 cMfbl7wqPACtZ97ZevbLWwAlqjGCHJZKvguk8A5j+7nN0H//FV2RuAJW+PEvLjnbtCMh +uNuqnOG1bHb0zdfoH3b75XyPxrDg7Nfh8FrB5yknaL8si9aD+y5gvpHSLuMDweEDSIt dxMKbwpSn6V800QJ9pOplgkssf2uQQZJZTeoU480r7pQ7ikc0BcB+hlCsDfCJDd+hU44 QznA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532RMyu2FRKxR09ptKnJgHpu4CW1hyG2WWOiUXo8eVleO2g7zITo UiYur32sTtdANZj++mfpZ/n1IYhV X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz2itiqF2Gdhy680AQObERhMH6XoX9+NS3JvzsUws6gUpsGeTFL+zjXb2JbDRlChiZ7iPwkbg== X-Received: by 2002:a37:4d01:: with SMTP id a1mr13915887qkb.151.1596414138809; Sun, 02 Aug 2020 17:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.10.245] ([166.137.96.69]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id h55sm21731833qte.16.2020.08.02.17.22.14 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 02 Aug 2020 17:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Aviation Specific 13B/20B Mazda Front Side Housing-pics To: Rotary motors in aircraft References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 19:22:47 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 200802-4, 08/02/2020), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean On 8/2/2020 5:52 PM, Kelly Troyer keltro@gmail.com wrote: > Group, >   As stated in a previous  E mail I have photos of a junk lycoming I/O > 540 crankcase with the "Dyna 1" mount ring as used by the "Vans" RV10 > bolted to > the top mount "Ears"............I machined a wooden plug to fit the > the Lycoming rear crankshaft bearing journal and the outer portion of > the plug to fit the > " ID " of the RX8 Renesis front cover seal area...........This was to > show if the Renesis cover would fit within the confines of the > Lycoming I/O 540 mount > ring................It fits very well with only the stock Renesis > alternator mount (top of the waterpump portion of the cover) needing > to be removed and the > alternator relocated........These photos are too large to go > through the forum but I can send them to any of the group that may > want to see them via your > personal E mail address.............Just let me know.......... > > Best, > Kelly troyer > > Hi Kelly, Is the 540 mount ring the same diameter as the 320/360 ring? If not, it's not going to help most people who are running 2 rotor engines. If you need a measurement on the mount for the smaller engines, I've got one hanging in the hangar. BTW, for the 320/360 engines, the type 2 mount is pretty rare. IIRC, it was only used on some light twins and maybe a single or two, that used an extended hub constant speed prop. Which brings up a point that is significant to me. As I mentioned earlier, the dyna mount is intended to converge the mounting bolt angles at the cg of the engine/prop combination in order for it to be truly effective.  It also requires quite expensive mount 'rubbers'. I've flown a significant number of hours behind both dyna and 'conical' (straight mount) Lyc engines, and the dyna is honestly not worth the extra $300-$400 expense. On a rotary, the value should be even less, since there's so little vibration.  A 'conical' setup would be dirt-simple to design/build, and a full set of the soft parts could be had for way south of $50. There are still a lot of conical mount Lycs in circulation, so obtaining a mount from a kit mfgr should be a simple matter. If you want to post the pics on the list, I'll be happy to resize them for you; just send them to me the address in my name, above. Charlie -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus