X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=BpPjPrf5 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=cIu/d37K6LOsCPt39DdT9w==:117 a=hgd9Fbv9zUJYmKSJFKl7lQ==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=K7ySfSCCDxUA:10 a=Jdjhy38mL1oA:10 a=_7xGTstTAAAA:8 a=fCIKzyFcAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=Brl-55siSnpPBL5PasIA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=HVYttLX18F0A:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=QQw0BlaexHl-bNNBIMsA:9 a=7JAY3m6rCTqShu9W:21 a=vldNTNkCRAOxSMmjBuQ5:22 a=q7zwL8gQ_N0r8JLRARHr:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com" Received: from mail-qk1-f178.google.com ([209.85.222.178] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 13425639 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 19:08:59 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.222.178; envelope-from=mattboiteau@gmail.com Received: by mail-qk1-f178.google.com with SMTP id q15so1589770qki.2 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 16:09:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references :user-agent; bh=T8BtiE8Nrcvg3OekUA9lCXQ8HHevT36hlpBAvbe5GwE=; b=TOkngqbA0nJBcicrZUK5IvgzhTZ3uwNgPFahbDB6lqI2uS8X0dqBdf0s+PL4EUkgT0 BKBg9gcFeqCDQIHD00uh4KY4gOHOSHBsuc4YMc2QZI0FJyeSMqqEqceUhx5rVuOvnQL+ ++V9cPXg03g/Wcsxoy2pA1H2gFkOQ31bGQKsCg3Sd/oPofCAqdkZC048rc7rrvcybufP 4esr3XbfLC6wDWub2eQxFE6WHCfxfwfjh9+o7kfCK5yYsQRPDKNntdM1PzHGMqLMdSrJ SpxcBxYAvASyuj2DozN9JV9GZdw+75h9BVnShxL6sDeQXKgv0w3Cv+8x0IiVHWm3xZdI jNjw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :in-reply-to:references:user-agent; bh=T8BtiE8Nrcvg3OekUA9lCXQ8HHevT36hlpBAvbe5GwE=; b=o9b1PEMGiMFFFlG7uhMYykLGDyCNFW7762nsJNSuzNYNttHOrOe5f5gHGFrlG/fDa6 fgiq/8n4ewc9tzvlT5lFEzuSLLcHFOH07SHJimIvXpKsQji0yB9W2TWgvJ45d2b/WXqf wjqN/qqm3eGObRI6MQxBwHuFUMfYvgyLjgyrfzfTn4QekC6f8B2ygw5xQCjrmPvbwF1e 1+h8L83Da4PSyqGveGJoJ5dOl3qZxCmAuwTSCxPunfJrNOSYcDyOg9sqfDIOjWaEGQgJ tdGbNC5tzS/avxC49M7XT8gCyi4ximwUVnv/NeEBHMRQmFrrsc7IDCTYnMBGhRaU2DCl h+3g== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWz/ykEp/xOss9l7AWWzXRCI7UzMHIn1LJgT8sK1gHbitz9fg30 kNwDmqXnOmoCsnda9drLm2W9eAzGnpkVFQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwie09SeAOD8h9b/kJxEoXMud9bDcBvA9gFOQEa7nzjv23GpZERuaVdhdvmUMXE4EvtHHgvgA== X-Received: by 2002:ae9:f709:: with SMTP id s9mr14093728qkg.463.1580083722618; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 16:08:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.0.134] ([67.58.218.7]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 4sm8662911qkv.44.2020.01.26.16.08.42 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 26 Jan 2020 16:08:42 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_9483635.270161337243" MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 19:08:40 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis Timing To: "Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com" In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Mailbird/2.5.43.0 X-Mailbird-ID: e0773038-faff-4512-a31b-135e55e9ff30@getmailbird.com ------=_NextPart_9483635.270161337243 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can't comment on Tracy's setup.=C2=A0 But here's the stock rx8 for leading and trailing. https://www.rx8club.com/series-ii-engine-tuning-164/series-ii-ecu-tuning-18= 8268/page40/ [https://www.rx8club.com/series-ii-engine-tuning-164/series-ii= -ecu-tuning-188268/page40/] Also Arron has his posted.=C2=A0 https://www.aaroncake.net/RX-7/megasquirt/ProgramMS3X.asp [https://www.aaro= ncake.net/RX-7/megasquirt/ProgramMS3X.asp] This very moment, I'm using more of Arron's table in my tune with megasquir= t. I still don't know how to tune the spark table yet (with a dyno). - Matt Boiteau On 2020-01-26 9:38:19 AM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rich I should have mentioned that the EC2 & 3 documents I have are both for the = A8 versions. Steve > On 26 Jan 2020, at 8:15 pm, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: > > Hi there Rich > > In the EC3 code it suggests that the BUSENSOR can be programmed on variou= s engines: > "BUSENSOR EQU 0x00 ;0 =3D NO BACKUP SENSOR, 1 =3D BACKUP INSTALLED (0xA8,= 0xA9,AB,AD,B1,B2,B4 0-200 ENGINE ONLY)" > But in the EC3 document I have, the pinout reads: > "Pin 6. Crank Angle Sensor (CAS) 2 Destination. Not Applicable on this ve= rsion. (OPTIONAL)" > Also in the Document. > "Note, This version of the EC3 controller is not available with the optio= nal backup crank sensor even though it is shown in the schematic." > In both the EC2 & 3 documents I have under Sensor wiring it says: > "If you have installed a backup sensor and have ordered the EC2 with the = backup sensor option, the backup sensor must be mounted 90 degrees in advan= ce of the primary sensor. > > Cheers > > Steve Izett > > >> On 26 Jan 2020, at 10:14 am, A R Goldman argoldman@aol.com wrote: >> >> Not a timing issue directly,however=E2=80=94 >> >> I have Tracy=E2=80=99s ec3 for my renesis. The wiring diagram indicates = an input for two CASs however in my rapidly fading memory I seem to remembe= r that only one CAS can be used. Is that correct or can it read two 180 deg= rees off set. >> >> Thanks, Rich >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jan 25, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrot= e: >>> >>> Hi guys >>> >>> My apologies, I think Ive asked this some years back, and I=E2=80=99ve = had trouble searching the archive, not sure why! >>> >>> Lynn has talked from memory about the importance of knowing the timing. >>> So much appreciate your input Lynn over the years, and sorry for the ti= mes I haven=E2=80=99t listened carefully. >>> >>> Tracy=E2=80=99s A8 Renesis base timing setup has always run well. >>> But now as we are extending the envelope I=E2=80=99m interested in what= others with Renesis engines/CAS have done with their timing. >>> >>> Can anyone with EC2/3 A8 and Renesis CAS comment on any timing adjustme= nts that have made to the base settings. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Steve Izett >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/Lis= t.html >> >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List= .html > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.= html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.ht= ml ------=_NextPart_9483635.270161337243 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I can't comment on Tracy's setup.&n= bsp;

But here's the stock rx8 for leading and trailing.
https://www.rx8club.com/series-ii-engine-tuning-164/serie= s-ii-ecu-tuning-188268/page40/

Also Arron has his posted. <= br>ht= tps://www.aaroncake.net/RX-7/megasquirt/ProgramMS3X.asp

This very moment, I'm using more of Arron's table in my tune with m= egasquirt. I still don't know how to tune the spark table yet (with a dyno)= .

- Matt Boiteau

On 2= 020-01-26 9:38:19 AM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com <flyrotary@l= ancaironline.net> wrote:

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I should have mentioned that the EC2 & 3 doc= uments I have are both for the A8 versions.=0D
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=0D> On 26 Jan 2020, at 8:15 pm, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote:=0D
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> Hi there Rich=0D
> =0D> In the EC3 code it suggests that the BUSENSOR can be programmed on vari= ous engines:=0D
> "BUSENSOR EQU 0x00 ;0 =3D NO BACKUP SENSOR, 1 =3D BAC= KUP INSTALLED (0xA8,0xA9,AB,AD,B1,B2,B4 0-200 ENGINE ONLY)"=0D
> But in = the EC3 document I have, the pinout reads:=0D
> "Pin 6. Crank Angle Sen= sor (CAS) 2 Destination. Not Applicable on this version. (OPTION= AL)"=0D
> Also in the Document. =0D
> "Note, This version of the EC3= controller is not available with the optional backup crank sensor even tho= ugh it is shown in the schematic."=0D
> In both the EC2 & 3 documents I = have under Sensor wiring it says:=0D
> "If you have installed a backup s= ensor and have ordered the EC2 with the backup sensor option, the backup se= nsor must be mounted 90 degrees in advance of the primary sensor.=0D
> = =0D
> Cheers=0D
> =0D
> Steve Izett=0D
> =0D
> =0D
>> On = 26 Jan 2020, at 10:14 am, A R Goldman argoldman@aol.com wrote:=0D
>> =0D
>> Not a timing issue directly,however=E2= =80=94=0D
>> =0D
>> I have Tracy=E2=80=99s ec3 for my renesis. The wi= ring diagram indicates an input for two CASs however in my rapidly fading m= emory I seem to remember that only one CAS can be used. Is that correct or = can it read two 180 degrees off set.=0D
>> =0D
>> Thanks, Rich=0D>> =0D
>> Sent from my iPhone=0D
>> =0D
>>> On Jan 25, 2020, at 6= :25 PM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com = wrote:=0D
>>> =0D
>>> Hi guys=0D
>>> =0D
>>> My apologies, I t= hink Ive asked this some years back, and I=E2=80=99ve had trouble searching= the archive, not sure why!=0D
>>> =0D
>>> Lynn has talked from memor= y about the importance of knowing the timing.=0D
>>> So much appreciate = your input Lynn over the years, and sorry for the times I haven=E2=80=99t l= istened carefully.=0D
>>> =0D
>>> Tracy=E2=80=99s A8 Renesis base tim= ing setup has always run well. =0D
>>> But now as we are extending the e= nvelope I=E2=80=99m interested in what others with Renesis engines/CAS have= done with their timing.=0D
>>> =0D
>>> Can anyone with EC2/3 A8 and = Renesis CAS comment on any timing adjustments that have made to the base se= ttings.=0D
>>> =0D
>>> Thanks=0D
>>> =0D
>>> Steve Izett=0D
= >>> =0D
>>> =0D
>>> =0D
>>> --=0D
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