X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=BpPjPrf5 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=PJaJpeSLqw3SPzeEZ6I4IA==:117 a=55z/sxGcUIPVrBMYBb4HRw==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=_Z_nqdSeG58A:10 a=Jdjhy38mL1oA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=Wr6o8-78iUd7PCAKETEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 a=pHzHmUro8NiASowvMSCR:22 a=Ew2E2A-JSTLzCXPT_086:22 From: "Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com" Received: from mail-pg1-f182.google.com ([209.85.215.182] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 13423440 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 15:27:45 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.215.182; envelope-from=12348ung@gmail.com Received: by mail-pg1-f182.google.com with SMTP id r11so3027482pgf.1 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 12:27:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=sIEKs9rp+8h3CZ9FMVvl9Wv3BZTx4zUBCjtfzpklv7I=; b=IPjwW/6FFPCdpZJyF5t0UpeKDvPpFf7uAAXK9JEXQe28Kp4phg/QFfXF+J4LrfUVa/ 65jipqrdBigatcVjan/nrk1a3/YCT1FiN4Zz+KcAtbpyxSE/Sys5eT9OA1Qt6aG+Eb/y KKkTIk+VZJYxOH0AGN04Ajf+0/dNYvMoWS/J6foVBFvMKYZ9wE5VhwvclVHEUFeB6RXK 5wYr2lpSBo32uDAQhyN04i9XxPzZ+jnr2gFR1shs2j7zMvCumV3XXqPZ9BpIf+HheFM3 wGtVZHrCLz1vEpcg3MY1rQH0uU8AhV+AgL/Z+D/bYWwABYCyS0FjGOkOSuIg2NqqbtBi Jfiw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=sIEKs9rp+8h3CZ9FMVvl9Wv3BZTx4zUBCjtfzpklv7I=; b=KBLEZW2XLSqGs5uIUGaa4qoc+9YuFipNapaKt0tark1IjeIT/wcattZCslXoO8P6XL 53WeOSjQZTi4ZCKFfGoQ2ItOiNmgy/wOIb2dcTRjdI5Ul4SjguR0GwONR0KgA18A7vGI x2P66lSmc+E0QvmCHZVuKy/IwQk9GegJa0H/DVJUUuHVwT8UXAkJsVkI24efx1kXz9Oh NudiDrCHs1sYYD88cynQmZYMIdY1lGZPrG6ye+8VJVHWabEyWkIHM2LRx/QL9qNt1thU z2pQDbrBrjQazYfHDiwBcMl4z/JO9jtuemAhcfO+AlbFbuEt5wY4NnJqWU0vL7s6LieO PpVg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW/QyEU1aKavrmU/UnRd+5nb5fKlepiQmjYRofTsca545NBtPj/ KJwr3C1Wk4HQCPKiNB20RZBZg/H+ X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxFZ7Kv71Yu4wEMJJYbtZOkEe7T/eo3rrLPPu6ogwavxqLoq3N7J5qwlGImOPDlXHDGpOxGeg== X-Received: by 2002:a63:7744:: with SMTP id s65mr11082429pgc.312.1579984048263; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 12:27:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: <12348ung@gmail.com> Received: from [192.168.0.106] ([103.198.24.78]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d4sm10499182pjz.12.2020.01.25.12.27.26 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Jan 2020 12:27:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: My EMI journey continues. To: Rotary motors in aircraft References: Message-ID: <1a6de4af-23a2-6dff-9682-f05dfbeb72a4@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 07:27:23 +1100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Steve,             Great to hear you are getting somewhere at last. Neil. On 1/25/2020 11:05 PM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: > Hi people. > > An update on the EMI issue with the Glasair > > I woke up to the engine cut problem over 5000rpm. Obvious when I think about it now. > Its happens at staging. > When the secondaries switch on it dies, because there is no power to the secondary injectors. > I have some connectors in circuit so I could add Tracy’s injector failure switching. > The 14v feed to the secondary injectors had gone open. > Touching the connector made the symptom go away with full rpm/load available. > > So the processor A stumble on radio TX is solved by the 100nF cap decoupling the MAP output. > And the engine cut was another problem all together. I will remove the faulty utilux connector. > > Cheers > > Steve Izett > > > >> On 21 Jan 2020, at 12:44 pm, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Hi Guys >> >> I got a few hours on the Glasair this morning. >> >> Last week after soldering 100nF caps across pin 1&2 of EC2, I couldn’t start the engine on either controller.???!!! >> >> I checked the EC2 today and found the Earth Stud on the case was a little loose, so I tightened it up. >> >> Engine then started fine and ran on both controllers. One small step for man….. >> On Radio tx, NO stumble on either controller! Another small step for man…. >> >> BUT on running up the engine ONE great big step backwards….. >> >> Slowly increasing the RPM yields a very consistent engine cutout at just over 5000 rpm on both controllers. >> At say 3000 and stabbing the throttle yields the same result. >> If I pull the throttle quickly when it cuts out, it sometimes would recover. Otherwise it stalled completely. >> >> I can help but feel the caps are the culprit. >> Didn't have time to pull the EC2 and test. >> I would like to remove 100nF and retest. >> Then I’m tempted to replace with 10nF and retest. >> >> OR I could just remove the caps and put some Ferrites on the leads going into the EC2. >> >> The RF getting into the ADHARS has, it appears been attenuated significantly by 2 ferrites on the cables entering the unit and the subsequent reduction in VS indicated on radio tx. >> >> Till next time….. >> >> Steve Izett >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html